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Excellent point David. One thing that hasn't really been mentioned here so far, is that the point of seeing a live show, is to do exactly that, SEE the show. So, this lends the additional perspectives you mentioned to a performance. When the musician is on stage, they now suddenly, have the immediacy of the performance to work within, which may change the way they're used to playing their music, unless they're used to playing live. They have the audience to think about, and if the show is being recorded, but ideally, their overall picture of what it is they do, can encompass all these. The audience, wants to not only be moved by the way cool music they came to see or hope they did, but they may be curious in many ways about the performer too. What do they look like if they've never seen them before, or what do they do to make that noise? lol! -or maybe some just like the general experience of live music and enjoy attending shows. -and as you mentioned, what's the stage and venue like? Where and how are they seated? Is it interesting and comfortable? Can they see well enough? How's the sound system? Does the music sound good in that respect? Is the performer paying any attention to them? and what kind? Finally, is the show being recorded? Does the audience know? Does the pperformer know for that matter? Recording in itself can add something fun and immediate to a performance, both for the audience and the performer. Does the performer talk about it, is the audience encouraged to make their presence known ?, or to interact with the performer?/ in the performance? I just think all of these are important things to think about, so thanks for bringing them up. As much as pop is offensive to some, and sort of throw-away by nature, one can learn alot from it both musically and in the aspects of performance mentioned here. It addresses all of them, or at least tries to most of the time. Because you might consider smiling to an audience when you just might not be quite in the mood to smile, doesn't make you insincere in your image. If someone approaches you on the street and says hi or acknowledges you, or asks you how you're doing, would you scowl at them, or consider at least being polite even if you're feeling a bit off that day? I consider an audience like that. These people came to see YOU. Even if they've never met you before, they have an interest in what it is you do. You have the stage, and their attention, which they don't just have to give you. It's a privilege. What you do with it is about not only the art, but yourself in their eyes. Unless they get to know you better, you are what they see. anyway, just my thoughts... -Great posts, David, Andre, Steve, Rick and others. Thank you... smiles, Cara --- View my online portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/model_list.cfm?ID=52516 -Last updated on Wed. 11.05.03 "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~thefates Please visit BadFiction and The Guitar Cafe. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/badfiction http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the-guitar-cafe