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RE: King crimson stuff



I had always been under the assumption that he got the octave sound out of
the GR300 myself but, since someone brought up the possibility of the Foxx
Tone Machine. I got to thinking that it could possibly be that or maybe he
just conciously or unconciously modeled his GR patch around the FTM sound 
or
something like it. The tune I was thinking about was Paint The Road from
Twang Bar King.

Thanks Guys
Another Belewaholic ;D

-----Original Message-----
From: David [mailto:vze2ncsr@verizon.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:29 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: King crimson stuff


At one point in the early 80's, and memory fails me when exactly, AB had an
Ibanez HD1000 Harmonizer Harmonics Delay.  I remember talking about it 
with,
and buying one from, Reeves Gabrels when he was working at Wurlitzer on
Newbury Street back in 1986.

The Roland GR300 of that era also would create pitch-shifted tones +/-
octaves

And then AB also is a superlative slide-guitar player, and he would often 
go
beyond the fretboard.

I hope that helps.

David Kirkdorffer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Kroeger" <nospam@developsolutions.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:11 PM
Subject: RE: King crimson stuff


> Red? Hmm!, the one I had in the 70's was blue (maybe there was another 
> version or it was customized) but, I did love that thing (it still had 
> a slightly ugly fuzz sound) the octave thing was cool (wish I still 
> had it $$$). Do you think that was what he was using to get those 
> sounds on Lone Rhino and/or Twang Bar King? I ain't much for persuing 
> those trivia details ;D
>
> Heres a pic the same as the one I had 
> http://www.tonefrenzy.com/2/images/gear/fox_tonemachine1%20copy.JPG
>
> I might have to think about duplicating this on one of my DSP boxes 
> cause
it
> is cool sounding.
>
> Some circuits that supposedly replicate it 
> http://www.runoffgroove.com/ftm.html
> http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/ftm.html
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stanitarium@earthlink.net [mailto:stanitarium@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:40 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: King crimson stuff
>
>
> hey bein a belewaholic since the 80s maybe i know...
> every interview in print that i have from the days of elephant talk 
> adrian talks about his 'foxx tone machine' for those upper octavee 
> thingees-it works like the roger mayer 'octavia'-fuzz plus octave. and 
> its red and
fuzzy
> :-)
> s
>
> > No Harmonizer - He just uses the guitar to really get up there - you 
> > should try to locate the Live in Mexico official bootleg - he does a 
> > killer high pitched distorted feedback squeal solo on "Three of a 
> > Perfect Pair" - and if you can find the old video he made in the 
> > 80's you can see how he gets a lot of his sound with minimal effects 
> > although his rack at that time was the size of a fridge :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: L. Angulo [mailto:labalou2000@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:18 AM
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: RE: King crimson stuff
> >
> > hes obviously also using some sort of harmonizer to
> > get those really high pitched notes but what intrigues
> > me is that you cannot hear the artifacts you usually
> > hear from such devices
> > louie
> > --- Glenn Poorman <glenn.poorman@autodesk.com> wrote:
> >> I think that second solo is pure guitar with some
> >> good
> >> fat distortion and compression.
> >>
> >> Glenn
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: L. Angulo [mailto:labalou2000@yahoo.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:39 AM
> >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >>> Subject: Re: King crimson stuff
> >>>
> >>> Thanx Caleb
> >>> Yes i am aware that they both used Roland synths
> >> and
> >>> in Elephant talk is really clear the synth solo
> >> from
> >>> fripp but the second solo is the one that
> >> intrigues
> >>> me...
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Louie
> >>
> >
> >
> > =====
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