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Re: King crimson stuff



thought all you belew heads out there might like this:

http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/ftm.html

i know that i did!

ken;

On Jan 7, 2004, at 1:58 PM, Alan Kroeger wrote:

> Well I'm glad somebody can keep track of this stuff I wonder whether 
> the Red
> FTM ha had was custom or some sort of model change?
>
> Thanks S
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stanitarium@earthlink.net [mailto:stanitarium@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:45 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: King crimson stuff
>
>
> here is a quote from Guitar Player jan.'84:
> AB describing his onstage/studio equipment p.80-
> ...number 3 is my Foxx[Tone Machine]fuzztone. That's the sound in "Big
> Electric Cat" and "Paint the Road". "i always use it w/ the high octave
> sustain switch on. its my favorite effect, and not an easy one to find 
> these
> days. i'm also daisy-chaining the Foxx-tone into an MXR 10-band graphic
> equalizer so that i can eq it." i know i'm getting into minutia here 
> but AB
> is/was a great looper guitar guy,so... s
>
>> I had always been under the assumption that he got the octave sound
>> out of the GR300 myself but, since someone brought up the possibility
>> of the Foxx Tone Machine. I got to thinking that it could possibly be
>> that or maybe he just conciously or unconciously modeled his GR patch
>> around the FTM sound or something like it. The tune I was thinking
>> about was Paint The Road from Twang Bar King.
>>
>> Thanks Guys
>> Another Belewaholic ;D
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David [mailto:vze2ncsr@verizon.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:29 PM
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Subject: Re: King crimson stuff
>>
>>
>> At one point in the early 80's, and memory fails me when exactly, AB
>> had an Ibanez HD1000 Harmonizer Harmonics Delay.  I remember talking
>> about it with, and buying one from, Reeves Gabrels when he was working
>> at Wurlitzer on Newbury Street back in 1986.
>>
>> The Roland GR300 of that era also would create pitch-shifted tones +/-
>> octaves
>>
>> And then AB also is a superlative slide-guitar player, and he would
>> often go beyond the fretboard.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> David Kirkdorffer
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan Kroeger" <nospam@developsolutions.com>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:11 PM
>> Subject: RE: King crimson stuff
>>
>>
>>> Red? Hmm!, the one I had in the 70's was blue (maybe there was
>>> another version or it was customized) but, I did love that thing (it
>>> still had a slightly ugly fuzz sound) the octave thing was cool (wish
>>> I still had it $$$). Do you think that was what he was using to get
>>> those sounds on Lone Rhino and/or Twang Bar King? I ain't much for
>>> persuing those trivia details ;D
>>>
>>> Heres a pic the same as the one I had
>>> http://www.tonefrenzy.com/2/images/gear/fox_tonemachine1%20copy.JPG
>>>
>>> I might have to think about duplicating this on one of my DSP boxes
>>> cause
>> it
>>> is cool sounding.
>>>
>>> Some circuits that supposedly replicate it
>>> http://www.runoffgroove.com/ftm.html
>>> http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/ftm.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stanitarium@earthlink.net [mailto:stanitarium@earthlink.net]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:40 PM
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> Subject: Re: King crimson stuff
>>>
>>>
>>> hey bein a belewaholic since the 80s maybe i know...
>>> every interview in print that i have from the days of elephant talk
>>> adrian talks about his 'foxx tone machine' for those upper octavee
>>> thingees-it works like the roger mayer 'octavia'-fuzz plus octave.
>>> and its red and
>> fuzzy
>>> :-)
>>> s
>>>
>>>> No Harmonizer - He just uses the guitar to really get up there - you
>>>> should try to locate the Live in Mexico official bootleg - he does a
>>>> killer high pitched distorted feedback squeal solo on "Three of a
>>>> Perfect Pair" - and if you can find the old video he made in the
>>>> 80's you can see how he gets a lot of his sound with minimal effects
>>>> although his rack at that time was the size of a fridge :)
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: L. Angulo [mailto:labalou2000@yahoo.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:18 AM
>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>> Subject: RE: King crimson stuff
>>>>
>>>> hes obviously also using some sort of harmonizer to
>>>> get those really high pitched notes but what intrigues
>>>> me is that you cannot hear the artifacts you usually
>>>> hear from such devices
>>>> louie
>>>> --- Glenn Poorman <glenn.poorman@autodesk.com> wrote:
>>>>> I think that second solo is pure guitar with some
>>>>> good
>>>>> fat distortion and compression.
>>>>>
>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: L. Angulo [mailto:labalou2000@yahoo.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:39 AM
>>>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: King crimson stuff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanx Caleb
>>>>>> Yes i am aware that they both used Roland synths
>>>>> and
>>>>>> in Elephant talk is really clear the synth solo
>>>>> from
>>>>>> fripp but the second solo is the one that
>>>>> intrigues
>>>>>> me...
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Louie
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =====
>>>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>>>
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