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Since there's been a previous thread on the Alesis Ineko and its rather remarkable loop-mangleage (izzat a word?) capabilities, I thought I'd send in a heads-up that the Alesis Akira is currently on closeout for $199 at a variety of places. If anybody wants to beat their local dealer down on a price match, the cheapest I've seen it is $179 at 8th Street Music ( http://www.8thstreet.com/prod.asp?pid=8906 ) and musicalistruments4less.com ( http://www.musicalinstruments4less.com/49807944/m4_954532879.html ). Be cautious of that last link, however, as they're working in conjunction with Music123.com, and I can verify that Music123 is out of stock. The Alesis Akira is basically a 1U rack-mount version of the Ineko. The other main differences are that it features balanced(!) stereo 1/4" TRS jacks with I/O adjustable from -10dB to +4 dBu, better frequency response specs, an extra 50 memory locations that are user-programmable, an internal switched power supply, and a bypass jack. I'm not certain what the MIDI implementation was like on the Ineko, but the Akira has support for program change and continuous controller assignment for the X, Y, & Z knobs (there's not a heckuva lot more to edit on the Ineko/Akira). I just ordered one as a substitute for the Kaos Pad I've been using in my Repeater's effects loop. Not that I have any difficulty with my KP1 other than the fact that I've got too many widgets/pedals hanging out of my rack already, and I needed something rack-mountable (one less thing to plug in/set up onstage). The Akira has about umpteen different whacked-out effects, perfect for twisting loops inside out (a *frequency shifter*?!? i always thought i'd have to buy a modular synth to get one of those). Anyway, for anyone who was intrigued by the earlier talk of the Ineko but who also cringed at the thought of yet another tabletop box, here's your chance.... -c- _____ "i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back" -recoil