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I have very little experience with the EDP, but doesn't it sound a bit like "unrounded loop windowing" ? have you tried what is described in pages 5-22 and next ? I haven't exactly tried to "window" a single long cycle but will ... Francois Comparison with others is the mark of the fool -----Message d'origine----- De: mark francombe [SMTP:mark@mark-red.com] Date: vendredi 9 janvier 2004 16:01 À: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Objet: quick edp one... Ok, multiply... Multiplies the current loop, er...I mean cycle... BUT what if you made a rather long cycle in the first place and you want to DIVIDE it into sections... if you know what I mean... I often make a short cycle, multiply it out to say 16X jam a bit overdub a bit, THEN re-multipy it shorter (theres probably a edp manual term for this...but dunno) On Repeater its called Trim... BUT I really want to do that same thing to cycles that started out as pretty long in the first place, I AM head down in the manual A LOT, (so dont just go and say read the manual) but sometimes you just miss something right??? And this is one pretty fat manual. thanks in advance Mark www.mark-red.com << Fichier: ATT00003.htm>>