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I guess my answer reflects my viewpoint of 'labels'... like any art genre, or for that matter 'art' in general... people argue endlessly as to whether something fits a genre, or if it is even art... as well, am I a 'distortionist' if I use a distortion pedal? labels (like most language) are thin because of thier subjectivity... should we agree on what the terms mean? or should we accept that these slippery words are just a starting point in understanding, and that 'dialog' is the only way to fully understand... I think he is a looper, in that he uses looping, and I think that is what you are saying... but, maybe Rick suggesting that he is not a looper, because it is not his intention to 'loop' using singing as part of his looping technique, but he intends to 'sing' using looping as part of his singing technique... we are all right, in that we just used the same word to describe different things, both of which are true... Oh hey, I just figured it out, he is a looper, but not a Looper... :) Thus, all Loopers are loopers, but not all loopers are Loopers... :) peace -cpr >-- Original Message -- >Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 13:55:41 -0800 >From: Andre LaFosse <altruist@earthlink.net> >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: ALL YOU LOOP NEWBIES GET YOUR BUNS TO LOOPSTOCK >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >Chris Roberts wrote: > >> intention? > >OK. So then, if the intention of a typical singer-songwriter with a >DL-4 is to loop something under his solos, then the intention of a >"looper" is...? > >I'm not trying to be difficult or argumentative here at all - I would >simply love to have a better understanding of a seemingly arbitrary >distinction which I've been trying (and failing) to understand for >years... > >Hmmm, > >--Andre >