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Is this true? maybe things will get better for the EDP but then again... Louie --- Catilyne <catilyne@icicle.net> wrote: > At 09:13 PM 4/9/2004, Damon Grossman wrote: > > >QUESTIONS: > >Is there another looping product besides EDP that > gives you independence of > >tracks and stereo? > >How can i buy two EDPS? > >How much per EDP should I expect to pay? > >Should i buy new or used? > >ebay? I just saw one go for around $630 used. > Aren't they around $1000 new? > >West La Music, a local music store? > >Direct from Gibson? > > Damon, I'm sure a lot of other people will chime in > with their thoughts, > but since it seems to have been a whole two hours > with no reply <*gasp*>, > I'll go ahead and get things kicked off. > > First, the EDP+ is listed at Musician's Fiend for > $799 even as we speak, > but from what I understand there's a supply-side > problem with actually > getting them in the stores. A quick peruse through > the archives should > fill in some of the blanks, or perhaps some of the > individuals more closely > linked to the situation will step in. It does seem > as if a lot of the > users here recommend Alto Music, however, and they > may be a good bet for an > EDP purchase once they begin coming back into the > stores. Used units on > Ebay may go for cheaper, but make certain they've > had their memory filled > up (the new units come with max memory, if I > remember correctly). Also, > you may have to pony up for a foot controller if > your don't already have one. > > Next, I must say that I agree wholeheartedly with > your philosophy regarding > stereo (these days, I mostly play synths so all my > sound sources are > stereo). With the EDP, you do have to buy two units > and brother sync them > together to achieve stereo functionality. For that > reason, I'm not an EDP > user myself. Personally, the stereo thing is the > one issue that always > blew the EDP's price-to-value ratio out of the water > for me. If I've got > to save up almost two grand to get a stereo EDP, > then I'll save for a bit > longer and get an Eventide or, better yet, a Kyma. > Anyway, end soapbox -- > as always, YMMV and there are others here who > certainly feel differently. > > Also, there is evidently an effort in the works to > port the EDP's operating > software over to the Soundarts Chameleon. While > there will be obviously be > some limitations of other sorts on that platform, at > least it'll stop > myself and various others from whingeing on about > the EDP's lack of stereo > support at a reasonable price-point. > > As for alternate options, you should start by going > through the 'Tools of > the Trade' section of the Loopers Delight website ( > http://www.loopersdelight.com/tools/tools.html ). > My personal choice is > the Electrix Repeater, which is a favorite of many > others here on the list > as well. It features four independent tracks which > can be used separately > or linked into stereo pairs, as well as some nice > extras (effects loop, > ability to shift time and pitch independent of each > other, loop > storage/recall via CFC, etc.). Though discontinued, > you can still find > them on Ebay for around $800 these days. > > Some of the other options that take stereo into > account: On the upper end, > you've got the aforementioned Eventide Orville or > the Symbolic Sound Kyma, > both of which will allow you to at the very least > reconfigure the > algorithms in order to customize the box for your > task (heck, the Kyma is > actually a programmable hardware platform which can > be customized to be > just about anything you want -- effects or > otherwise). Then you've got the > old dependable Lexicon units -- like the Jamman or > the PCM-42 -- which > still perform well. And at the low end, you've got > quirkier boxes like the > Cycloops. These may not exactly be your cup of tea > or they may be exactly > what you're looking for. As I said before, YMMV. > > >Other percussion loopers unite. I am looking for > other loopers who are also > >percussionists. It seems that the majority of > members of this group are > >guitarists. > > There are a good deal of guitarists here, but there > are a lot of other > instrumentalists as well -- bass, synths, winds, > orchestral > strings.... There are also quite a few kickass > looping percussionists > hanging out here too, but I'll let them step up and > introduce themselves in > their own time. Welcome to the list; I don't think > you'll be disappointed > in the least. :) > > -c- > > _____ > "i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* > what reaches back" > > -recoil > ===== www.luis-angulo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html