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Allright so explain this ti me, if it can be called heavy metal why canīt it be call fuzzbox or distortion music? Sarcasm mode = out of order Louie > Hmmmm....... let me see.... naming a genre of music > that requires specific > capabilities derived from any of a number of devices > that is used to create > the music.... I have it!!! FuzzBox Music!!! > > Sarcasm mode = off > > Is there such a thing as wah-wah music?? > > I have sympathy with the desire to have something > that consolidates music > with loops in it, but if you can find a term that > will cover Classical, > Opera, Jazz, Rock, Hip-Hop, Country and Folk, then I > definitely want to know > it! > > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Hamburg" <mark_hamburg@baymoon.com> > To: "Looper's Delight" > <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 6:36 PM > Subject: "Live Looping" > > > > I've been pondering Andre's departure while away > from my e-mail for a > week. > > > > Andre may or may not be uncomfortable sharing a > genre with Matthias Grob > and > > Rick Walker, but I think there is a fair amount of > overlap and in ways > that > > are distinct from a singer-songerwriter using > loops on a DL4 for > > accompaniment and in ways that are pretty distinct > from others I've heard > at > > looping festivals such as Richard Zvonar, Matt > Davignon, or Amy X Neuburg > > (who are all relatively distinct from one > another). I think that > similarity > > is potentially apparent to people who aren't > familiar with the technology. > > Andre is more aggressive and less ambient in his > playing than some but > there > > are some core similarities stemming from a musical > style that grows and > > evolves the music as the audience listens. > > > > But that's where I think the "Live Looping" > movement got itself in > trouble. > > There is an aesthetic similarity, but I don't > think I've ever heard anyone > > express what it is. This leaves us with "Live > Looping consists of people > who > > use loopers live". But that includes the > singer-songwriter with the DL4 > who > > doesn't think of himself as a live looper per se. > As Kim (I think) has > > pointed out, it makes knowledge that something is > a looping event be about > > as informative as knowing it's a guitar event or a > trombone event. > > > > So, to really be successful as a promotional tool > -- which I think is the > > basic reason for trying to define a genre -- there > are a couple of things > I > > think should happen: > > > > 1. Someone needs to come up with a definition of > the aesthetics and > > experience from an audience perspective. > > > > 2. The name needs some consideration. If there is > real audience knowledge > of > > live looping then that name may be worth keeping, > but it also carries with > > it the problem that to use a looper live may not > make one a live looper > per > > se. Mark Sottilaro and I started toying with the > name "Cycletronica" last > > time this came up. He seems to have done more with > it than I have. > > > > I've also been thinking about Loopstock and > wondering whether the > > potentially anemic showing in Los Osos is > symptomatic of a bigger problem. > > Maybe it's just that like me other people have > schedule conflicts. I'm > > trying to resolve those conflicts, but I haven't > managed to do so yet. > > > > Or are Andre's frustrations taking hold at a > broader level? I've found the > > festivals extremely valuable to me as a player > because without them I > > wouldn't be playing publicly. But I've also found > them a bit frustrating > > both as a player and an audience member. For > example, as a player, I > become > > paranoid about getting my rig into a form that > will set up and strike very > > quickly. That probably results in some useful > focus and keeps me from > > spending a performance playing with too many toys, > but it is also a bit > > stressful. And I really would like a soundcheck > though the audience > > presumably wouldn't. As an audience member, I find > it annoying when others > > haven't worked as hard and the festival turns into > a festival of technical > > difficulties. (As a performer, I can think "there > but for the grace of > God" > > but that wouldn't cut it if I were just an > audience member.) > > > > Is it time to evolve beyond the marathon festival > model? To what? How do > we > > keep bringing the community together without the > stress level burning > people > > out? > > > > Mark > > > ===== www.luis-angulo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html