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hi all, i've been following this DD-20 thread with interest. I have been a long time DL-4 owner (like the day it was released or something close to that) and my unit has not failed once. It has seen fairly minimal stage usage, and I baby my stuff, too. I have heard of the many failures of these units, from users groups and fellow musicians alike. this dual loop function of the DD-20 sounds very interesting, but I have a question. How exactly does the DD20 implement the delay time? For example: 1. if you set the feedback on the memory slots to 100%, i'm assuming you set this ahead of time, and not 'on the fly'. can you do feedback adjustments on the fly? I'm sure this means bending down and adjusting the pedal, but is it instant gratification, or in a submenu? 2. when you start playing into the DD20, is the delay time already set, as well? So your 'loop' would have to conform to the delay time? (as in the PDS pedal paradigm). Or, do you 'tap' in the delay time on the fly, (more of a DL4 or EDP type paradigm) and then the loop/delay time is captured at the second hit of the 'tap'. 3. Someone mentioned a 'bypass' switch, which was described as a 'punch in/punch out' type function. Does this mean that you can set the feedback to 100%, get a loop going, then 'bypass' out, and continue layering over the loop, without it getting fed into the loop? This would be nice as that is a classic methodology for the PDS series pedals, which I miss with my DL4 very much. If you are in delay mode on the DL4 and set a high repeat setting, everything you play gets fed into the delay line, unless you have a more complex mixer/send setup (which I did for certain situations). hope someone can shed light on this. It looks like an interesting unit, and i've played with one briefly. I want a pedal that does tap tempo type delay work and can do infinite repeats with 'punch in/out' functions. DL4 meets PDS, please! best, rich www.asopaque.com > I don't own a DD-20, but my friend does, and after reading Eric's post >about > two simultaneous delay loops, I tried it out. The way I understood it >was > NOT using sound on sound mode, but instead using two different delays >with > infinite repeats. i.e. set memory 1 to a two sec. delay with feedback >@ > 100%, play something, and now you've got a two sec loop. Now, cycle to >the > next memory location, the 2 sec loop keeps playing, set delay time to > something different, say 2.5 secs, set the feedback to 100%, play, and >now > you have two loops of different lengths going. > > Now here's where the part that kicks ass is supposed to be. You switch >to > the next memory setting (3 now), the mem 1 loop stops, the mem 2 loop >keeps > going and now you can make a completely new loop on mem 3 to play with >mem 2 > loop. Unfortunately, I found that, while you can do this through all >four > memory locations, once you cycle back to the manual mode, it all stops, >no > more loops, no more endless evolving fun. I may have been doing >something > wrong and you can keep from going back to manual or something. Who >knows. I > don't own one so I can't say. But the multiple loops thing was way cool. > I > might have to get one. > > JS > > > >From: Douglas Baldwin <coyotelk@optonline.net> > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: DD-20 continued > >Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:42:03 -0400 > > > >Hey cats 'n' kittens- > > So far I've gotten the following pertinent points (which has >generated > >more questions) re. the DD-20: > >* The DD-20 comes with 4 memory slots and a current setup slot. They >can be > >toggled through with the right foot pedal. It can be setup to switch > >between only two of the slots, one being the current and one a memory >slot. > > > >Question: So you've got four memory slots AND a current setup slot? Can >you > >only "forward toggle" or can you toggle back and forth? And what about > >toggling between two memory slots? > > > >* ...when you switch from the current slot to the 1st memory slot the >loop > >continues but when you switch to the 2nd memory slot the loop stops. > > > >Questions: So you can juggle between two settings, but not a third.... >I'm > >assuming also that the beast has some kind of long-term memory, right? >If, > >ferinstance, I always want the first memory slot to be a delay of 16.33 > >seconds, can I turn the thing off and set it up next week and it will >fire > >up at that setting? And how fine is the setting of the delay length? >I've > >been doing a lot of work with my GT-3 pedal (see Miko's recent comments >on > >the GT-5) and w/the GT-3, I have multiple patches set up with >rhythmically > >compatible delay settings so I can switch between them for wicked cool > >polyrhythms. It seems the DD-20 would help me do more of that AND pass >the > >two-second limit of the GT-3, but my GT-3 settings are calibrated in > >milliseconds (three places to the right of the decimal point). It >appears > >that the DD-20 has only TWO places to the right of the decimal point > >(centiseconds?). Is this so? > > > >* So far, I've found the manual fairy cryptic. Maybe my copy is > >a misprint or something, because after the initial first > >few pages of disclaimers (and basic stuff about inserting > >batteries and plugging things into it) it seems to jump > >right to the middle of operating it and I get a bit lost. > >So, the manual for me has not been all that helpful. > > > >Comment: Boss manuals generate brown wind. Still, something is better >than > >nothing, and if anyone wants to scan and pdf or fax to me, I will be >your > >best friend forever and always give you cutsies on the lunch line. > > Keep those important facts on the DD-20 coming - I think I'm a >buyer, > >but I want to get a still clearer picture of it. > >Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large > >coyotelk@optonline.net > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus >