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On 2004-06-05, at 04.08, William Walker wrote: > The first looper I ever had, was a Maxon DM2000, a grey market > version of > the Ibanez DM2000 that I bought in the mid 80's. Hah! My first one was also an Ibanez, I think it was called "ibanez Hold Delay"...? Bought it in 1980. By then I had been using a Roland Chorus Echo for a while but sold it because it added to much tape hiss when doing sound-on-sound playing. With those first generation digital delays you always had to play at a tempo fitted to the delay unit ;-) All the best Per Boysen --- http://www.boysen.se http://www.looproom.com