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I agree. Speaking of modelers and tubes AND looping, the Vox Tonelab SE RULES. 8 second looper, real 12ax7 valve and a number of fuzzbox emulations that are pretty good. It's the only modeler I tried that really felt like you had a bunch of stomp boxes hooked to a nice old tube amp. One weird thing about it is when I got it it was set to "amp" out (expecting to see a guitar amp) so I switched it to "Line" for my mixer. I had this ugly high end on a lot of the patches I couldn't seem to dial out. (think David Torn) I almost took it back but I kept thinking it sounded great at first... oh yeah, that was when it was set to Amp out. At first it sounded like everything was covered by a wet blanket, but after a bit of tweaking the treble and presence viola! Really sweet sounds *and* I got the buzzsaw synth fuzzbox tone I was looking for. (I wasn't getting them in the "Line" out setting, so that's why I posted this topic in the first place) Another great thing about this box is the delays react like an old Digitech 8000. When you tweak the delay time you get all kinds of beautiful madness. Good times. Same holds true for the other effects as well. I'm going to make a recording with it tomorrow and I'll post the results. Mark On Jun 5, 2004, at 5:26 PM, William Walker wrote: > Hey Stano! how do ya like that there Sparkle Drive? Also, you'll be > happy > to know that I've sold my Pod Pro and gone back to using the Groove > Tubes > Trio, which I never sold, thank god. And you can say I told you so! Ha > Ha. > Don't get me wrong, I'm still a fan of modeling, My god the new floor > pedal > from vox is awesome, its just that after playing with them side by > side in > the studio (GT Trio and Pod Pro) I realized how much sound and feel > had been > missing. I will say this, owning a pod inspired my to buy both a small > fender amp, and a small vox amp, and I may again buy a modeling amp. > For now > I've gone back to tubes and stomp boxes. > Bill