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On the topic of older units...mine just started something new. Sometimes, it just won't record. There is input, but no output. Turn it off, and on again, it works fine. After 10 mins, it just stops recording. I have to power down. My EDP is from 96 or so. BTW, thanks to Andy for all the help he has given me these past few years. Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com