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I was very impressed with the tips everyone came up with. All of which have proven effective in one form or another. My particular tips are rather basic. One, I find that researching stuff about a particular style of music or artform is helpful. I also use emulation as a technique. I try to mimic other instruments on the guitar using alternate techniques in phrasing and articulation. It's challenging in the sense that you have to limit your playing style to cop the style of the imstrument you are mimicking(i.e. horns, keys). The most useful tool I've found for me when I'm stuck is chaos. If you render yourself helpless by changing things so that you have no control over your surroundngs, it makes for an interesting event. I find that changing to a fretless neck on the guitar opens up exploation into microtonality, along with using toys, electronic devices and prepared guitar makes for a nice recipie for chaos. once you get something going, record all of it, and sit down to edit out chunks of sound. I've spent hours sifting through a ten minute noisefest to come up with about 2 minutes of sound that I would then compose into a song. In live situations, it's more interesting because you can't make an edit, so you learn to make the most of a bad phrase and use it to build your next musical expression. I'd say more, but i tend to ramble, Bri __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/