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I can get it to oscillate, pitch shift, spit out random crap....But i have a entire board of analog and digital delays that do all that stuff(Ibanez DDL10 tweaked, diigtech PDS20/20 tweaked, PSK analog delay, boss DM-2, Ibanez DE7, and soon a modded DD-3 and PB&J), so I use it as a looper and a special effects/traditional delay pedal. Spend a hour with it if you can, 20 minutes getting used to the sounds, and then start to mess with it with a knowledge of it's limitations(or what you, at that point think the limitations are). It is a very deep pedal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ" <dhjohnson@mindspring.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: Re: Retraction and apology to LD and Vox (Re: Vox Tonelab for looping) > Does it really? Real self-oscillation? You can change the pitch with > the time knob? If that's so then... WOW! I'll have to check that out, > as that would make it quite a unit. I could swear I read that I would > not self-oscillate, but I could easily be wrong about this. If I keep > the pedal board instead of the tonelab then I might have to check this > out. Thanks! > > On Jun 18, 2004, at 11:37 PM, Shane Whitbread wrote: > > > the boss DD-20 does tap and oscillation as well. Probably the best > > delay > > pedal on the market today...... > > > > Also, count this as a bump....I too wanna know if they ocsillate or > > not...... > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "DJ" <dhjohnson@mindspring.com> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:39 PM > > Subject: Re: Retraction and apology to LD and Vox (Re: Vox Tonelab for > > looping) > > > > > >> That sounds very cool. Do you know, can any of the the tonelabs > >> delays > >> self-oscillate a la the old bucket-brigade delays? That is one of the > >> coolest effects and no one seems to make delays that can do it. I > >> need > >> a delay that has tap tempo self-oscillation and looping. I think > >> Maneco who make the Maneco loopers is building a device that can do > >> this. No one mention the line 6 as I am not going to pay that kind of > >> money for something that is going to break and the replacement part > >> cost almost as much as a new unit. My friend had one and when it > >> broke > >> that's what line 6 told him to do, buy a new chip or processor which > >> was probably 75% of the cost of a new unit. When my old memory man > >> broke I sent it to EH and for 16 bucks they fixed it. > >> > >> On Jun 18, 2004, at 4:26 PM, msottilaro wrote: > >> > >>> On Jun 18, 2004, at 10:33 AM, DJ wrote: > >>> > >>>> I'm curious, what kind of looping capabilities does the Tonelab SE > >>>> have? > >>> > >>> Vox doesn't advertise it because nobody cares about looping, silly. > >>> ;) > >>> Here's what it does straight from the manual: > >>> > >>> 10. HOLD DELAY (HOLD DLY) MONO IN/MONO OUT 1 > >>> If you assign “HOLD DLY” to the CONTROL pedal, you’ll be able to hold > >>> the delay > >>> sound. > >>> [1] “TIME” 1–8000 [ms] Sets the delay time. > >>> [2] “FEEDBACK” 0.0–10.0 * Adjusts the amount of feedback. > >>> [3] “TONE” 1.0–10.0 * Adjusts the tone of the delay sound. > >>> [6] “MIX” 0.0–10.0 * Adjusts the mix amount of the delay sound. > >>> CONTROL pedal: HOLD DLY: If you select “HOLD DLY” for the CONTROL > >>> pedal, the delay sound will be held from the > >>> moment you turn the pedal on. > >>> > >>> What the manual doesn't say is that when you change delay times it > >>> behaves like the old Digitech PDS8000 and old analog delay pedals > >>> where you get all sorts of warping during the change. That makes for > >>> some fun effects. > >>> > >>>> lso, I saw you mention in another post that the Tonelab will let you > >>>> disable the cabinet simulations so you can use it with an amp w/out > >>>> double filtering your signal. I am wondering if it is possible for > >>>> you to disable all the amp-like parts and use it as a multi-fx unit. > >>> > >>> Yes, that's the idea. > >>> > >>>> Can you tweak the parameters in real time easily while you playing? > >>> > >>> Yeah, totally. You can also assign any perimeter to one of the > >>> expression pedals so you don't have to be bending over all the time > >>> to > >>> knob twiddle. You can do that as well, though. It's got a really > >>> simple to navigate interface where you have "soft" knobs that change > >>> function depending on what your tweaking. > >>> > >>>> I would like to get the Tonelab to record with and then I would like > >>>> to use it with a real guitar amp and use just the FX onstage, but I > >>>> need to be able to adjust things real-time while on stage. Can this > >>>> be done with the Tonelab? If it also has looping it may have > >>>> everything I need. Thanks! > >>> > >>> That's the whole idea behind this piece of gear. Check it out, you > >>> may hate it's presets but once tweaked you can do a lot with this > >>> badboy. > >>> > >>> Mark > >>> > >> > > >