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Personally, I don't order gear offline(mostly because I end up paying too many additional cost to get it into canada, and I am a person who likes to try before I buy). People I know? A few have read about bad experences dealing with musictoyz, be it being treated terribly, or that they waited 8-12 months to get there gear from them(and msuictoyz ignoring request to cancel orders and refund money). A lot of guitarist webfourms have stories about dealing with musictoyz on them, and I have no reason to NOT believe them. I have no idea who ron is beyond a nice, informative site on EH. I know others experences with musictoyz. If yours went smoothly, great. maybe they are changing there buisness habits. Also, I probably missed the first posting about musictoyz, i tend to go days without checking this fourm as I am not a EDP user, and am only really interested in the posting about pedal loopers/upcoming shows. I probably missed it...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:08 AM Subject: Musictoyz.com (was Re: Electro-harmonix 16 second Delay reissue first impressions) > Funny, when I asked about that exact thing here not a single person > responded. > > When you lob an insinuation like that out there, it might be good to > give a real world "for instance." Where you ever ripped off by them? > howWho was that you know and ? > > I didn't find anything substantial doing a google search about them > being a bad retailer. In fact, I found one that just seemed mad they > didn't get a shipping confirmation and I actually found a bunch of > people who said they had good experience. They sent me order > confirmations, answered an email and sent the item out quickly. From > my experience I'd order from them again in a heart beat. I think their > site is nice and informative and service was as good as any I've had. > > Maybe Ron's your best friend and fixes guitar pedals while he walks on > water. I'm probably silly for not ordering from him, but I honestly > didn't think I was going to get an EH16 when he posted. > > Cheerio, > > Mark > > On Jun 30, 2004, at 7:43 AM, Shane Whitbread wrote: > > > Musictoyz is actually a sketchy as hell company. In the end many > > people > > have been ripped off by them.... > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:48 AM > > Subject: Re: Electro-harmonix 16 second Delay reissue first impressions > > > > > >> Yeah I did. I didn't act when the Ron guy asked for the $100 deposit. > >> That sounded weird. Take my credit card and charge it when the unit > >> ships. The Ron guy struck me as maybe a bit sketchy where Musictoyz > >> seemed like an established business. It set me back more money, but I > >> already have it and I'm sure a piece of gear like this will appreciate > >> in value as time goes by. Musictoyz was really, really nice to deal > >> with, they seem like a small but honest business. I can't really say > >> anything bad about Ron, but the whole deposit thing made my > >> spider-sense tingle. > >> > >> Take care, > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> On Jun 29, 2004, at 7:29 AM, Paolo Valladolid wrote: > >> > >>> --- Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> wrote: > >>>> So the thing they said would never exist, does > >>>> indeed exist. Now, I > >>>> never owned or even used the original, but I'll give > >>>> my first > >>>> impression of this little box. > >>> > >>> Mark, did you get your EH16 from Music Toyz? Just > >>> curious. > >>> > >>> Paolo > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> __________________________________ > >>> Do you Yahoo!? > >>> New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! > >>> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > >>> > >> > > >