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This is possible by setting the tempo with TempoSelect--press Undo with Sync=Out. Tempo LEDs will flash, you can then change the tempo with the feedback knob, and fine tune it with Insert and Mute. A short press on Undo then locks the tempo; a long press exits this state. Dunno if the loop will then exit recording at the end, but it definitely sets the length-- And of course the trigger function is available to begin recording when audio is introduced to the EDP. Gary From: Tom Rex wrote: I'm trying to do something with the Echoplex that I can do with the Fantom S. With the Fantom S, you just set your tempo, and the length of your loop, and it starts recording when you play your 1st note, and goes into overdub at the end of the 1st loop . I assume that this is a possibility with the latest Echoplex software? Can someone please point me to where it discusses how to do this in the documentation. Thank you very much! Tom