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(The arms and firstborns comment was about Kyma+Capybara+LCK, cuz it's way out of my price range. But it's also #1 on my wish list!) Two days ago I shipped my new/never-unpacked EDP+EFC7 to an LD lister (congrats!) for exactly what I paid for it, which included my ASCAP discount. I bought it from Musician's Friend -- still my favorite online music retailer, I might add. But you're right: even at EDP=$759, plus EFC7=$94, plus max Gold Coverage on both, it was close to a grand. I just bought a mint Repeater on eBay couple days ago, so you know I'm chewing on my greens. ;) I paid what it was worth to me. To ME. And that's really the name of the game, right? If the EDP got super scarce and went for $2k, people would buy it. Because that's what it would be worth to THEM. Interestingly, there isn't a single EDP on eBay. And it's a real rarity to see a blackface. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Lehmann [mailto:hqr@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:47 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Buying an Echoplex and Firstborns Thought I'd weigh in-- I sold one of my two EDPs less than three months ago and so will be replacing it thru Alto Music when they get theirs. There are several solidly established American artists using the EDP so I will be really surprised if Gibson drops them from their production line--but the chances are greater of it continuing to be available if half the people who want to experiment with MF's price policies just cut to the chase and get one from a retailer who has a price they can afford. Let's face it, the thing is close to a grand no matter where you buy it. I didn't ask at Alto, I just got in line for when they arrive, but I'm sure that with tax and shipping it will be close to $800. Where I live that's close to a grand. So no one will make them if nobody buys them--shop around and put your money where your mouth is. Firstborns are important too--best of luck to Lance! Gary -----Original Message----- From: Lance Zechinato [mailto:LanceZechinato@verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:55 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Musicians friend Price politics Maybe the universe lowered its prices while the EDP stayed the same. ;) It's all relative according to Einstein; we'd never perceive it. (I bet Gibson winked... writing-on-the-wall type thing, so your theory sounds good.) Musician's Friend's knows which way the wind is blowing re/EDP if anyone. And nobody's talking about EDPs beyond the as-yet shipped units. I imagine EDP sales don't bring in truckloads of cash for Gibson. I say sell the EDP division to a non-karaoke company! ;) Seems somebody would dig to slapping their name in front of "Echoplex". Or change it to the "DigiTech Geckoplex" or something. It'll be interesting to see what happens next commercially. The next cat's meow... is it Matthias and the rumored Chameleon "Echoplex" skin? G4s and Ableton? Kyma X plus Capybara plus LCK (plus arms and legs and firstborns)? -----Original Message----- From: | SquidLoop | [mailto:tentacle_joe@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:49 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Musicians friend Price politics --- Greg House <ghunicycle@yahoo.com> wrote: It wouldn't surprise me to > find that they cut some deal > with Gibson to buy the entire stock, hence removing the competition, > before raising the price so dramatically. Although I doubt this but has anybody considered that maybe Gibson raised the price of the units causing MF to raise their prices in the catalog?