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Thanks for the kind words, Mark. I've actually been an LD subscriber for about a year (I don't post much), and recommend it highly to folks who see my shows and express an interest in looping. (I must admit I've been considering unsubscribing, because all the off-topic stuff is getting a little much for me, even in digest form.) My setup is: Ableton Live running on a Sony Vaio, M-Audio Firewire 410, Ground Control Pro foot controller, talking to a little utility called MIDI Translator (www.bome.com) that lets each button on the GCP send multiple keystroke commands to Live. Oh, and a microphone to sing and beatbox into, of course. I love Ableton Live. I'm going to upgrade from Live 3 to Live 4 soon, and I'm excited to see what I can do with the new features. I do crave a more hardware-looper feel along with the multitrack flexibility that Live allows, so I'm hoping Augustus Loop comes out for Windows soon. The recent Mac-vs.-PC discussion is of interest to me -- but only where Live is concerned. I want to buy a faster laptop so I can handle more loops and effects at once (I'm maxing out at about 12 live tracks). I know this is a discussion more suited to Ableton's forums, but the signal-to-noise ratio over there is even higher than on LD. :) So, Live users: I've heard that a good PC laptop will trounce a good Mac laptop when running Live -- allowing you more simultaneous tracks and effects before becoming hopelessly confused. Thoughts on this? I don't have any clips of my looping stuff on the Web yet, but when I do I'll let the list know. Peace, Andrew Chaikin, aka Kid Beyond andrew at bigger bread dot com http://biggerbread.com | http://kidbeyond.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 9:36 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Kid Beyond Hey, Last night I caught a Beatbox show in Berkeley called "Vowel Movement." Amazing show. One of the performers was called Kid Beyond (http://www.kidbeyond.com) and was doing really cool stuff with live loops using Ableton's Live. If any of you get the chance to check this guy out, I swear you won't be disappointed. Mark