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First let me say that I have no problems with the use of “canned” parts, pre-recorded loops or sequences in a musical presentation. I have, in fact, been quite guilty of this in the past; sometimes using as many as three drum machines, sequencer, and pre-recorded loops burned onto a CD (a little trick borrowed from Rick). Yet, I no longer do this. In just about all aspects of my music (composition, improvisation, recording, performance), I continually ask myself one question: “why?”. Why am I using this phrase, scale, part, loop et al.? Why does this work.or why does it not work? And I think it important to ask ourselves this in relation to the use of canned tracks. Mark made some interesting points, and I think many have taken note of that. As to the separation of artistic statement and entertainment, let us not forget that the “show” element of what we do, music being the most intangible of art forms, is important and not really separate from our “artistic ambitions”. Technology, as we loopers are so aware of, has made it possible to do so much with sound. Yet, I am constantly reminded of that old saying, ‘just because you CAN do something does not mean you necessarily SHOULD”. So I ask, why do you want/need to use canned tracks? To flesh out arrangements? To perform as a one man band, and cover “all the bases”? Quite often technology makes is quite possible for mediocre music to be made which sounds quite good, yet on a little deeper listen runs parallel to “The Emperor’s New Clothes”. ProTools, Laptops, software pgms, drum machines etc. have made it totally possible for even the marginally talented to make really cool sounds, and in this course lower the bar considerably. Duke Ellington once said, “If it sounds good, it is good”. Yet sometimes “good” is just not good enough. My own experience has been that playing solo bass with loops captivated audiences. Even though many could not quite fathom what was being done (and at times a brief explanation of the process did help things along), the fact they could see/hear me making loops and playing to/with them was intriguing. It was a performance, albeit one quite unlike many had ever seen (face it..one guy playing bass and doing complete compositions is a bit… er…”different”). I did use drum loops and other sequenced bits, and when they would kick on a great number of the audience would lose attention. The machines, regardless of how cool they sound and tricks they can play, cannot replace the “humanity” and errors of something played. And, quite often, in performances, which rely heavily upon canned tracks, sequencers etc., there is a greater possibility of meltdown; the more things that can go wrong insure that some most certainly will. And, especially in my case, too many buttons and options kept my focus on the buttons and options and not on the music (ever notice how at many loop/sequence performances the performer seems totally mesmermerized by his/her own gear?). Simplicity is a really nice thing (eh, Ted?) In the world today audiences are inundated with performances, which rely quite heavily on sequencers, canned tracks etc. Concerts have become “spectacles”; perfected and entertaining yet retaining none of the idiosyncrasies which make music so endearing. And so, we now are witnessing a shift in popular tastes. Audience are once again clamoring for “real” performances, regardless of how high caliber the playing is, to once again feel “the magic”. This is what makes looping so unique. It is played. And, it does not have to an improvisational tool, although this is the road many of us take (and a fine road to take indeed). My dilemma was how to maintain the contact with audience. I began programming drum machines on the fly for performances (a nifty trick which someone with the skills of Rick Walker or Matt Davignon might be able to pull off better than I) which did captivate the audiences more..but was a little time consuming, and prone to “pilot error”. Then I began learning to play the drum parts, and other instrument mimicry, on my basses in real time as I looped the parts. This is a hit. No, my “bass drumming” does not sound as cool as a drum machine, but it works just as well…perhaps even better. As musicians it is easy for us to be awed by someone’s programming prowess, the cool filter treatments of sequencer et al, but that is really lost on an audience who merely wants music. My own take on things is that if I am a soloist, using loops, I embrace the limitations of the position. I will use those limitations to make music as richly as I can, without trying to sound like a complete orchestra (my own feelings here are an audience quickly becomes tired of hearing more sound than what they can fathom a single player can create). Along the way I learn more and more about both the complexities and simplicities of musical expression, develop skills and playing techniques, and learn to be more engaging as a performer. Yet, I must say, I greatly enjoy performances which do use canned tracks. Watching someone pull it all of, like Bill Walker (who uses a few “peater loops on card), is exhilarating and inspiring ( Bill would be both of those just alone with an acoustic gtr…heck, for that matter a dulcimer!). If the use of tracks is your “calling” then by all means proceed….with all the wit, passion and knowledge you can muster. But, to be fair, first ask yourself, “why?”. A little more than my $.02 Max