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Hello All, I'm not sure where this faulty information regarding a price increase is coming from but we haven't increased the price since the EDPP (Digital Pro Plus) was introduced as far as I can recall. Some of you know my History with Gibson and I won't bore the rest of you with the details but I've been with the Echoplex for some time and am very close to it. Had a price increase occurred, I would have utilized the list to inform you myself. As Andy has pointed out, Straight Edge has been very kind in working with Gibson since my return and continues to provide a very high quality product to us regardless of the difficulties. They are owed much credit in the continuance of the EDPP. As Andy has also touched on, we are coming to the end of the production run from the latest order between Gibson and Straight Edge. At this time, we're working to overcome the exchange rate on what will hopefully be the next supply of them. As you are likely aware the pound and the dollar have been moving in opposite directions. Both sides are actively working to keep the EDPP flowing smoothly. It is likely that we will run short again soon but I'm working hard to avoid a large gap in delivery. As a few of you have pointed out, the EDPP is in need of a hardware upgrade and balancing the end of life cycle of one version while we move to another is a challenge. Regardless of the varying opinions on Gibson as a company or on its ownership, there are many of us here who are passionate about the EDPP and appreciative of the passion loopers have for it as a tool for musical expression. While I can't answer all of my emails quickly, I still welcome your input on the EDPP, its future direction, desired features and formats and anything relevant that you'd like to share. I hope this is helpful. Best Regards, Kevin Van Pamel -----Original Message----- From: Andy [mailto:andy.ewen@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:56 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Gibson jacks up Echoplex price I have no idea why Gibson has made this price increase and I will look into it. We are selling EDPs to them for the same price agreed nearly 2 years ago. No EDPs have been made for over a year due to the lack of payment to us from Gibson but a deal has been struck, (i.e. you pay up, we send EDPs), and the remainder of our stock is now moving. For any future production however, it's not about the technology getting cheaper; the technology used in the EDP is from the 90s and the parts are all going up in value. Many parts are not manufactured anymore but there is plenty of 'new old stock' which unscrupulous distributors make us pay through the nose for; $20 for the Crystal CODEC is a good example! As for memory, it hasn't been manufactured for years and is impossible to find in production quantities. I had the last 4MB SIMMs especially manufactured in the US and we bought 2500 pieces to get a price of $3 each. That's $12 a set at prime. None of this should have a bearing on any current stock though for the reasons mentioned previously. I couldn't possibly comment on any other reason why they might want more of everyone's hard-earned cash but those who know of the guy in charge can draw their own conclusions :) Andy Ewen, EDP Production Manager. (It's lucky that's not my only job or I'd have starved a long time ago) -----Original Message----- From: Brian [mailto:Brian@porterresearch.com] Sent: 21 September 2004 19:48 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Gibson jacks up Echoplex price I was just about to get an Echoplex but then Gibson jacks up the price $150 in a period of two months!! This technology is getting cheaper, how could this happen? Has anyone else noticed this outrage? I've been a loyal Gibson customer for years, but this may very well change that. If they updated the memory again, I could understand, but no, they are still using memory that can be purchased for a couple of dollars. Anyone know where to get a new echoplex for a decent price?