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ill second this,except for the FCB1010(which seems to be pretty reliable) i havent had any good experiences with Behringer.I think the FCB1010 is probably the best product they have come up with! Luis --- S V G <vsyevolod@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Rainier wrote: > <<I'm slowly getting tired of people using the > Behringer brand name like it > was a mixture of Josef Stalin and French > carmakers.>> > > I am very open to hearing about quality > Behringer mixers. They have a quite deserved bad > rap > when it comes to very low quality in some of their > products, most notably their low end mixers > (and FCB1010 manuals). A local pro audio repair > shop near me does a lot of Behringer warranty > work, a lot of it comes straight from Behringer > themselves. The amount of gear that goes straight > into the dumpster is absolutely overwhelming. We're > talking pallet load after pallet load. If > they are getting compared to Joseph Stalin or French > carmakers (a bit extreme IMHO) perhaps they > are deserving of it? > > I feel that the best thing that we can do as a > group of people is to steer our friends away > from low quality and towards high quality. > Sometimes high quality comes in very inexpensive > packages, perhaps it's the physical interface > alone... or the owners manual is very well thought > out, or something like that. If a manufacturer is > selling a product that appears to be a good > deal only to have severe malfunctioning or low S/N > ratios, I want to hear about it. > > The LD list is most useful to me when people > can objectively discuss various gear, the pros > and cons of UI's, sampling quality, how the gear > *works* for us as opposed to against us. I have > learned so much over the years of being on this > list. Behringer mixers, and I am talking about > the low end stuff that they produce, are not worth > the money they charge unless fidelity is not > important to you or your application. In my > experience, Mackie is a better value for the money. > And I would love to hear contrasting opinions. > Like, at what point does Behringer start sounding > good? How much do I have to spend before I get a > reliable, relatively low noise mixer? Does > Behringer actually compete with Mackie quality-wise > at some price point? > > One of these days I may get inspired to get a > better quality mixer than my two Mackies (1604 > VLZ Pro and 3204). Then I'll talk about how much > more of the music I'm hearing and I can't > believe how long I stayed with the Mackies. :) > Until then, Mackie rocks my sonic world. > > > <<And if anybody is interested: Way back, I replaced > the integrated mixer of > my Fostex multitrack (which back then was the best > integrated fourtrack on > the market, also superior to all portastudio > products)...>> > > This is where your argument gets absurd. Which > Fostex multitrack? Are you sure it's > superior to *all* portastudio products at that time? > Did you really try them all? I appreciated > your post up to this point. Claiming that you are > authorized to say that Fostex kicks sonic booty > on *all* Tascam portastudio products of that time > will not work without further backing up your > words. C'mon man, you can do better than this... > > In sonic honesty and friendship, > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > ===== www.luis-angulo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo