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Perhaps I missed it, but what exactly are you having problems with regarding the EDP? Between the manual, the online FAQs and knowledge base here, I think there's a ready answer to most questions. Personally, I think the manual's pretty good. It's a difficult machine to write a manual for because there's not one "right" way to use the EDP, so the "Here's how to do the basics section, now here's a list of all the functions--have fun" approach worked about as well as I could hope. It's so deep that there's no way anyone's expected to buy one, read the manual from front to back and then understand everything. It takes, literally, years to discover all the combinations of everything and what that implies musically. The EDP is more like a musical instrument than a conventional rack-mounted effects unit in that respect. The good news is that you don't have to know more than about 1% of what it can do to get rolling. TravisH On Oct 13, 2004, at 7:36 AM, Larry Cooperman wrote: > hard for me to say, I'm new to it and the manual is the bane of my > existence with the machines.