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Hi, I've seen this interesting thread passing by my inbox for a couple of days now and finally though I should throw something into the discussion. From my experience the number one trick to loop good with other musicians is to listen and make sure that you can hear and consciously follow every instrument line that is playing in the orchestra. My own capacity to simultaneously listen and react stops somewhere at three or four different orchestration components. These may be living musicians or looping machines. So if I'm playing with two other musicians I will not bring a rack with four looping machines, because I will simply not be capable of any meaningful musical interaction with that much stuff going on in the monitors (four loopers, my own instrument at hand plus two other musicians). Then my rule number two is to keep my equipment smooth to handle. The EDP is the most "playable" looper I've come across so far. One EDP, foot controller and instrument is my dream set-up for ensemble looping. I make sure to always have the feedback function at hand by an expression pedal (you don't say "have by foot", do you? lol) and I also make sure that I'm using EDP presets that will let me cut the loop length immediately, if needed. This is for changing tempo in one cut (like ending a multiply with the rec button). It's perfectly possible to not being synced to the others. If your loop is drifting, then just create a new loop and cut it exactly to the new tempo. Then you can cut them further to make counter rhythms. All the best Per Boysen --- http://www.looproom.com (international) http://www.boysen.se (Swedish site)