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Hoi Job en welkom op Loopers Delight, the EDP is great when it comes to creating ambient loops and instant Frippertronics. I hardly ever use mine as a phrase sampler. The Repeater is a great phrase sampler whose recording capabilities are only limited by the size of the CFC you´re using. Store your favourite loops on a card and use somebody else´s unitz instead when you go abroad. If you want to go into mangling your loops, the Repeater seems the better choice. The EDP is, like the Jam Man, my favourite when it comes to creating long delay loops that start building layer upon layer after a while, something you can do with the Repeater but the layering is limited by the size of the CFC you´re using (and you always have to tell it when you want it to overdub). After all, the choice of your tools greatly depends on your applications and the musical style you´re into (I´ve created albums with just a Repeater and a couple of EDPs and Jam Men). Groetjes, Stephen. "Human beings are a disease, the cancer of this planet, you´re a plague. And we are the cure." (Agent Smith / Matrix) Visit the official [´ramp] website at www.doombient.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Job Verweijen" <esperantomusic@hotmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 7:50 PM Subject: Repeater or EDP > Dear Musicians, > > My name is Job, I am a 29-year-old percussionist/vocalist from The > Netherlands and I want to get involved in looping. I have been reading a lot > of reports and reviews on the websites of loopers delight and harmony > central. My conclusion is that either the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus or >the > Elctrix Repeater is the machine I need. The big problem is I absolutely > cannot choose between those two. Both of them have pros and cons and I > wished some company could combine the best features of both to create the > ultimate musician's looping tool for live and recording. Since that >hasn't > happened yet, I need to choose. I am writing for some help on my choice. > > Let me explain how I want to use a looper. My band plays psychedelic >world > jammusic. My setup consists of different percussion-instruments, most of > which are individually miked. I also use a headset-mic for vocals. In the > live situation I want to be able to play a certain groove on an >instrument > like a handdrum, triangle, set of woodbocks or shaker and then loop it >and > overdub another layer etc. I also want to mix in my vocals. I sing > percussion-part, drumbeats and effects with my voice. Second I want to have > delay options for spacial effects on my voice and certain instruments for a > "trippy" effect. The delay times must be easily changeable. With a looper I > also want to compose loops at home and store them, so I can recall them live > with a footboard at any given moment. Third, I want the looper to >practice > along side with to work on my timing, so as a advanced kind of metronome. > Fourth, I want to be able to store loops on my computer at home to > manipulate/master and import effects/sound-collages etc from the computer > unto the looper. > > What I concluded was that the Repeater has far more storage-space for loops > and effects (up to 256 MB). Second the unit looks much stronger and it is > stereo. Problems are there's only one layer of Undo, some problems with > internal metronome and with the sound (especially when you're using the > pitch shift). There was a very negative review by some guy named Progster > (sept 14, 2001) but some rave ones by others. > > The EDP is not stereo and the unit and especially the footboard don't >look > too strong. Second, it doesn't have that much memory and only expansionable > up to 198 seconds (16 MB). > > So guys, please help me. What machine should I buy? And what is a decent > price to buy one second hand (on ebay or someplace else?). > > Thanks so much in advance!!! > > Best wishes, Job Verweijen > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Zoeken helpt je om de gekste dingen te vinden! http://search.msn.nl >