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hi all, I'm pretty sure the divine machine vst has been mentioned on the list before. It appears they have just brought out a new vst that may or may not be a looper. can't test it until i get to the studio tonight, and the website gives no specs or details regarding the live input capabilites but this is from the site (http://www.devine-machine.com/LuciferInfo.htm): Lucifer is a VST FX which takes Audio Notes as input. To use Lucifer, you need to first route Audio to/from the plugin and send it MIDI notes during operation. Repeat, Gate, Stutter and Scratch a live input or audio track on the fly! Lucifer has been desgined to be well-suited for live performance and DJ's, allowing BPM to be set by tapping along on a key (C key). Features: - Host BPM / manual Tap BPM sync - 6 Incarn graphs (pan/vol/scratch/distort/cut/res) - scratch/stutter/reverse audio on-the-fly - run multiple instances! - additonal FX (spread/groove/bounce/gate) - 4 filter modes (LPF, BPF, HPF, Notch) - Infinite Lock-repeat - Stereo operation with DJ-type crossfader has anybody tried out the demo? i imagine it only uses a small audio buffer (no minute long looping here?) but still looks kind of fun... cheers michael noble http://looplog.org