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But I read somewhere that if you hook up a midi footboard to the Repeater it can be operated in live situations just like any other real-time looper . This is indeed the case. I have a repeater hooked up to a behringer midi pedal, and I honestly don't know why people diss the machine as a live tool, Yes you have to spend time programming a midi pedal to do what it is capable of. But at 7 banks of ten presets, and counting, I've pretty much mapped out every PC and CC command I could imagine using on to my cheapo behringer footpedal. Everything form track select to pitch shift to panning to time stretching and beyond, is under foot control. I rarely have to touch the front face of my RPTR, other than to set the unit up for four track outputing. I do understand that the EDP's creative features like sus record and insert record are unique, and allow for a more "playing of the instrument" approach. I really want my cake and eat it too, After hearing Bernard Wagner play at Y2K4 this year, I realized I really want an EDP! Bernard's method of inserting new notes into his melodic sequences, gave his loops a wonderfull morphing quality. I think both units are worthy for different reasons, and if I could I'd own both. I must say the Repeater has come in really handy when I've needed to use pre-recorded material. Like when Rick and I need to sound like a full salsa orchestra for an awards show, as an example. That being said, for my purely improvisational loop wackyness,I've moved away from using prerecorded stuff ,prefering to make it up as I go, the one exception being the use of an occasional pre-recorded drum loop. Do yourself a favor if you can and buy both. Afterall, If it turns out one device is better for you than the other, you won't have any problem selling the one you don't want. That being said, good luck finding either one! Bill -----Original Message----- From: Job Verweijen [mailto:esperantomusic@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:45 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater or EDP