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You will love the upgrade just play with it for a few days without and then do the upgrade you will then understand why the upgrade was worth the money. Enjoy :) -----Original Message----- From: Gary Lehmann [mailto:hqr@cox.net] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:19 PM To: 'Looper's Delight' Subject: EDP and Adrenalinn Just reporting in-- Seems the AdrenaLinn will solve my ongoing loop percussion needs. Just got the original on eBay, and if 8th/beat is set high enough, the AdrenaLinn starts when the loop is ended--of course, if you run the beat first, it continues, but if the 8th is off, the tempo can be double (or half, etc.) It has delay, but this one is short--just ordered the upgrade, it gives the unit 2.8 secs of synched delay--almost a looper (no "freeze", but feedback control. Amp models are good but very rock and roll--filters and mod effects are great but that isn't what I needed--but I'll take 'em! Gary PS Bill Walker, probably not what you need for portability to replace tube amp--but check it out. G