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At 11:27 AM 11/1/2004, Larry Cooperman wrote: >Kim made the analogy to not being able to play the guitar by manual and >that's right. But it's fruit and meat. learning the guitar, manual or >otherwise, is at the same time learning music, culture and what girls >like. Aside from the part about "what girls like", I would say learning looping is quite similar, not different. You are also learning about music, culture, a process for creating, techniques on an instrument, the stylistic vocabulary of that instrument. It's much more than a bunch of buttons on some box. A looper is an instrument that takes a lot of learning and practice to become skilled, and the manual that came with the looper isn't going to teach you most of that. It just tells you what the functions and buttons do and where to connect the cables. So far as I can tell though, looping is not a very good way to meet girls. >Happens to involve technology now and manuals that don't, maybe, go about >being tutorial like and that are using an organizational principal based >on jargon, are somewhat hard for me. Is jargon avoidable? I don't see how. At some point you have to give names to concepts and ideas and functions. Overtime I think it just becomes necessary or the communication is too cumbersome for those who talk about it all the time. The names develop naturally. When somebody new comes into it, part of learning the subject is learning the terms that go with it. That is also true for classical guitar as much as it is for looping or anything else. In the beginning with any new subject, it is always confusing while you figure out what all the new words mean. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com