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>Some people have developed a vast array of original and compelling sounds >from "non-synth" set-ups. It's a point of pride (and perhaps even >practicality) that there is no sythesizing unit creating the source >signal. >Of course, the difference between using many layers of sound processing >and >actual "synthesis" is a great question. Good points, for instance a guitar pedal making a sub-Octave is producing a synthetic waveform.If you turn up the resonance of a Flanger, eventually it synthesizes a waveform. So whether or not you're using "no synths" is not always an easy question to answer. (ah, but I'm claiming "no synth" for my music at the moment) I'd like to suggest that it's more important to consider whether the sounds are developed by the player. To me, a MIDI guitar playing a preset sound just isn't exciting (the same being true if the sound is triggered by keyboard). Yes, those digi-piano guitar solos really don't do it for me. andy butler www.andybutler.com info & mp3s