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I hear the TC Electronics FireWorX has a Curve Generator Synth., Chaos Generator Synth, and Noise/Fractal Generator Synth. I'd like to test the Chaos generator, but there are no TC Elec. Dealers where I live. I imagine it would be fun to loop sounds made from this particular module, or figure out some sort of feedback mechanism that applies the chaos effect to its own output. http://www.tcelectronic.com/FireworX K- -----Original Message----- From: David Kirkdorffer [mailto:vze2ncsr@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:18 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Generative music -- was KOAN music software (was ORGANIC programming and looping (effects)) Back in 1997 I played with ways to create evolving music without needing me to "do" anything once I'd set it up. It was fun coming up with set-ups and the music was interesting to me at the time. I started by creating a very slowly evolving patch on a Juno synth - one with the arpeggiator in use. I fed that into a stereo-panning delay to split the signal and then each side was processed by other oscillating delays and stereo devices. Then I would experiment with putting the result of one chain of effects into an input on the other chain. Needless to say it became quite soupy-sounding quite quickly! Then I'd record a 198 second loop on my EDP and have that going too. My appartment was a carpet of wires. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Nelson" <psychle62@yahoo.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:29 AM Subject: Re: KOAN music software (was ORGANIC programming and looping (effects)) > Well, it's really not at all a problem with the > software. It's more an incompatibility on the user > side of the interface; I was finding that I wasn't as enthused by the > whole concept of generative music as I thought I would be. I'd enjoyed > some experiences earlier with various approaches to process music, so > I thought Koan would be a step in that direction, but I > found what I probably enjoyed the most about what I > had done was the vestigial musicianlike activities > not yet eliminated by the process. I'm certainly not > discouraging anyone from trying Koan, but I did find > it not to be my personal cuppa. > > -t- > > --- Ian Petersen <iep@mail.dk> wrote: > > > Tim, > > > > > it's a little too "auto-pilot" > > > for my tastes > > > > In what way? > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >