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This thread HAS made me wonder about something which, while still off-topic, is at least a little more relevant to looping, namely: That there Antares Vocal Helper Cher-Box Pitch Corrector thingy.... When I recognize it on a vocal, yes, it makes me retch. However, I can't help but wonder what'd sound like when used to process something like an oud, a fretless bass, or (can we talk about this here?) to post-process a loop. Yeah, I know that when it's active in the circuit, you'd most likely lose the microtonal nuances that make fretless instruments so cool, but would that 'jumping to pitch' thing make any sounds that might be interesting in their own right? Anyone? -t- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com