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Sim, I have been using the Virtualizer Pro in various setups for some time (got it shortly after it came out), my rigs for my ensemble Eclectic Blah as well as sometimes in my looping rigs. Some aspects: * quality of the audio signal is very fine for the price. Seems like with modern A/D D/A SoCs you can't go wrong... * Not very flexible from an effects combination standpoint. Either one effect, or some pairs with two effects (reverb or delay combined with a "basic" effect). * very nice and flexible chorus. It sounds very rich without "taking up too much room". * long delay (5.5s) * A lot of "special" effects, ring modulator, vinyl noise, etc. * All distortions are mostly unusable. This is especially prominent with the Rotary effects model which when driven "clips digitally", which was a major letdown for me. * You have 4 dials to alter parameters in realtime - this becomes rather aleatoric unless you sit in front of your rack with the manual or learn the meaning of "Edit A" to "Edit F" for each algorithm. * Hi/Lo shelfing EQ for each algorithm. * No "general" modifiers, i.e. LFOs or env followers. Some algorithms have some integrated (well chorus of course, but also the filter has an envelope follower). * Surreal reverb spaces are possible - especially listen to the "Trance" factory user program! * super cool "wave designer" algorthm - like a Triple-C Envelope Mode light. You can shape the attack and release times for your signal independently for left and right channel. Sumnmary: One of those devices you get when you have still one rack space left. Some effects are very interesting, most of them are standard effects with a good SNR. There is lots of really weird stuff, and if you don't need that at any given moment, the reverbs are sufficient for any live situation I can think of. I see it as a successor to the Zoom 1201. Rainer -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeon.harris@bbc.co.uk] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2004 12:41 An: loopers delight Betreff: Akira or Virtualizer? i'm looking for something to replace my Vortex in the loop of my Echoplex and i've been having a look at the Akira and the Behringer Virtualizer Pro anybody got any good or bad things to say about these units? i'd definitely like to be able to run dual fx sometimes (chorus + reverb, for example), which i don't think the Akira can do, but i like the real time "tweakability" of the Akira... help - can't decide! many thanks sim http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.