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There is no "decay" mode on the 20xl - you can fade a loop but can't overdub while it's fading. If you can swing it get a DD20 to use in conjunction with the 20xl. I just got one that I'm using pre- 20xl (acoustic guitar into dd20, into Ultrasound amp, into 20xl via amps effects loop). Preliminary findings: It's got 23 sec of delay/ overdub time with knob adjustable decay (1 repeat to infinite repeats). Set up one long delay in the first "memory" slot and another in the "manual" slot. Start layering on the "manual" patch, adjust "decay" knob to liking (max delay = "loop") switch to 1st memory slot create new loop (can be same or different or different delay time/ decay time than "manual" slot loop). Messing with the decay times of these two (one or the other) yields "dynamic" loop(s) that at any point can be captured (in static form) by the 20xl, then further manipulated while the 20xl plays away. The Looper" mode (Sound on Sound mode) on the dd20 is basically like the 20xl - good for creating static loops. You could set up a delay patch (I like the backwards delay w/long time/fade) in memory slot 1 and use SOS mode in the manual slot, set up a static loop then switch to the memory one slot to create an "ambient" wash over the static loop. Like I mentioned earlier, these are all preliminary findings but using the two Boss pedals together looks promising. - Paul On Dec 28, 2004, at 7:40 PM, Andrew Kolbeck wrote: > I like how you can overdub until there's no tommorrow, but with just 1 > phrase to build on, how can you make the music take on a different > idea? I guess that's my main beef. If it can't do what I'm hoping, > I'm going to return it.