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An ineresting note, I was denied a grant recently because of 'the reliance of technology' helping to create a piece. I wrote a simple melody, notated it, as well as all the overdubs (and where to push 'overdub' in the notation), harmonies, inserts, etc. Apparently looping isn't quite in the same league as, say, a prepared piano, which is acceptable. Oh well. Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com