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I'm working through this issue also. The octave effect on my Roland GP-100 is pretty good (I suspect it's very similar or same technology as the OC-2). However, I did just recently buy a Gracie acoustic guitar stand (upright, performance guitar holder), and it can also hold my old cheapee bass, with some modifications (read: blocks of foam to span the difference between acoustic gutiar thickness and elec bass thickness). So, I can give you this report: I like using the octaver effect much more. Trying to drop a bass line in on a second pass of a loop is much more natural (for me) by quickly going to the octave patch, vs. stepping up to the bass. Second, with some tweaking, and using the neck pickup as Mark Smart mentioned, I'm getting exactly the effect I want. No - it doesn't sound like a real bass. It sounds slightly warbly, like a fretless. But using the neck pickup, and picking carefully and cleanly, I don't get the octave jumps or strange artifacts. So, none of this directly confirms the OC-2 for you, but I'd say even if you can't try one out before buying, it's worth the $40 to try. If it doesn't blow your skirt up, you should be able to turn it around on eBay or Harmony-Central and only lose a few bucks. Or, try the Chilli Dog... I've heard good things there too - seems like one of the few effects that Dano makes that people like. The French Toast fuzz also gets high marks as a Foxx Tone Machine ripoff - wonder if Mr. Belew has one yet? :) Please let us know how it turns out, no matter which one you choose? Always looking for a better way. Dig PS - I *do* love the Gracie stand for switching to acoustic when I need to. With the stand adjusted right, and my electric strapped on correctly (ooo kinky!), I can switch between them in a beat, and the electric doesn't hit the acoustic. Neato. mwsmart@insightbb.com wrote: >>Of course, I've already thought about this option, and I can already >play bass >>well enough for my purposes, I'd say. But switching between guitar and >bass >>over and over again for each song (during different parts of a song) >just isn't >>all that practical (and if I was in the audience, I'd start getting >pissed at >>having to hear the loop those extra times, and I don't personally like >it much >>either being the performer). The ability to switch instantly would be a >BIG >>plus. >> >> > >Yeah, this is my rationale, too. With the switch on the guitar I can >switch >instantly between 6 strings of guitar, 2 bass + 4 guitar, and >6 of bass. Not practical with a regular freaking electric bass and guitar. > >Eventually, when I totally master the Stick, I'll be able to do it all >live >with no looping, but that will require about 100 times as much practicing >as >the Chili Dog/loop setup. > >Mark Smart >www.marksmart.net > > > >