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I have a target in mind, but I haven't computed the final cost to build the unit, yet. So, the target is likely higher than what I will actually end up setting the price at. For this reason, I don't think it would wise for me to release a number at this time. This will be neither a low-budget unit nor outrageously expensive though. --On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:24 PM -0500 Tom Combs <tcombs@sep.com> wrote: > Can you disclose anticipated MRSP? Or is that showing your hand a bit > too much? > > Bob Amstadt wrote: >> My original hopes were to have something ready for NAMM, but I knew that >> wasn't a realistic goal. As much as I'd like to say wait for what's >> coming, I can't control the schedule. I will say that I am working as >> fast as I can and it will be available soon. With other companies in >> the marketplace, I really can't afford to announce the features before I >> am ready to sell. >> >> --On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:43 PM +0000 looper@bluecocoa.co.uk >> wrote: >> >>> Sounds great Bob >>> However you'll need to put up something soon.. because I intend to buy >a >>> repeater when they come out in a few months and so if you want me to >>> hold on to that cash which could go to you, then I am gonna need to >>> see/hear more... >>> I hope you can get yourself up and running soon so we can all see this >>> new invention. >>> good luck mate >>> geoff >>> >>> >>> On 17 Jan 2005, at 21:29, Doug Cox wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Bob, >>>> >>>> I think I love you. Please save me! >>>> >>>> Dig >>>> >>>> Bob Amstadt wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've actually done quite a bit of work on this unit. The prototype >>>>> that I'm talking about will be the first unit built in the rack box. >>>>> I have several empty rack boxes behind me just waiting for the final >>>>> electronics. >>>>> >>>>> I will be doing beta testing before shipping to customers. I'll keep >>>>> everyone informed of progress. >>>>> >>>>> As for details, I'm still keeping the details close to home. >>>>> Especially now that the Repeater is returning to the market. I don't >>>>> think that they could change their electronics that fast, but I'd >>>>> rather not take a chance. As soon as I have the first rack unit >>>>> operational, I will take pictures and release a complete list of >>>>> specifications. I will say that my goal is to offer all the >>>>> functionality of existing loopers combined with features that nobody >>>>> else has. >>>>> >>>>> --On Monday, January 17, 2005 12:31 PM -0600 Doug Cox >>>>> <dougcox@pdq.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Bob, >>>>>> >>>>>> Those are exciting plans! I'm intrigued. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you really think you'll be selling a commercial version of the >>>>>> device >>>>>> within a few months? I'm no expert, but am surprised that you'll be >>>>>> able >>>>>> to go from prototype to a finished product that quickly. Is there >>>>>> any >>>>>> forum where we can keep up with your progress, get some hints about >>>>>> functionality, and possibly even participate in beta testing? >>>>>> >>>>>> Dig >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob Amstadt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I can say very little at this time, but I will say that it will fit >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> a 1U rack space and will be built on current technology. There >will >>>>>>> be non-volatile storage for loops and stereo input and output. >>>>>>> There >>>>>>> are other features that I prefer not to disclose at this time, but >I >>>>>>> will as soon as the first prototype is completed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Probably the biggest selling point is that this looper will not be >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> the mercy of a large corporation. My goal will be to provide >>>>>>> software >>>>>>> upgrades on a regular basis. The upgrades will be based on the >>>>>>> direct >>>>>>> requests of the users of this device. Software upgrades will be >>>>>>> available for download over the Internet. This will allow me to >>>>>>> offer >>>>>>> the latest and greatest software to all users of this product. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's all I care to say for now. Back to work on the prototype >>>>>>> unit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --On Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:01 PM -0500 David Kirkdorffer >>>>>>> <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are there any further details you feel comfortable disclosing at >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> time? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Bob Amstadt" <bob@amstadt.com> >>>>>>>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:41 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AW: Electrix Announces.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Expect another looper on the market in a couple of months. >>>>>>>>> Development >>>>>>>>> is going well and I expect to have a prototype completed in about >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> month. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --On Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:57 AM -0800 mark sottilaro >>>>>>>>> <marksottilaro@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Hm, I could be wrong, but with the Repeater some blank >>>>>>>>> > space is put before and after each loop so that you >>>>>>>>> > can go back and tweak your loop in and out point. >>>>>>>>> > This takes time and is what currently makes it >>>>>>>>> > impossible to go directly into record. I'd easily >>>>>>>>> > lose the loop tweak functions as I find the LPA (loop >>>>>>>>> > point assist) stretching function to work fine for me. >>>>>>>>> > All this speculation! Exciting times though. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Mark >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > --- Luca Formentini <luca@unguitar.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> right Rainer ! >>>>>>>>> >> I agree >>>>>>>>> >> luca >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> www.unguitar.com >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> > Yet, for me, only providing the possibility to go >>>>>>>>> >> directly into overdub >>>>>>>>> >> > after recording a loop would be "a big jump forward >>>>>>>>> >> from the >>>>>>>>> >> > functionality of the original unit". >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>>>>>>>> >> > Von: Travis Hartnett [mailto:tiktok@sprintmail.com] >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> > Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Januar 2005 17:49 >>>>>>>>> >> > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>>>>>> >> > Betreff: Re: Electrix Announces.... >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > I'm no accountant, but maybe they managed to wave >>>>>>>>> >> the magic wand of >>>>>>>>> >> > debt restructuring so now they have no R&D costs to >>>>>>>>> >> recoup? And yeah, >>>>>>>>> >> > it's probably made in China now to lower >>>>>>>>> >> manufacturing costs. >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > After filtering marketing speak, their description >>>>>>>>> >> of the new version >>>>>>>>> >> > sounded to me like "Fixed some bugs in OS 1.1 and >>>>>>>>> >> put a pretty >>>>>>>>> >> > faceplate on". More power to them if that's true, >>>>>>>>> >> but I'm not >>>>>>>>> >> > expecting a big jump forward from the functionality >>>>>>>>> >> of the original >>>>>>>>> >> > unit. >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > On Jan 15, 2005, at 8:39 AM, >>>>>>>>> >> > Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com >>>>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> From: "jondrums" <jondrums@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >> >> Date: January 14, 2005 10:08:57 AM PST >>>>>>>>> >> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >>>>>>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: Electrix Announces.... >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>> always plenty of them). If Electrix lost money >>>>>>>>> >> manufacturing these >>>>>>>>> >> >>> things and selling them for $300-400 how are they >>>>>>>>> >> going to make any >>>>>>>>> >> >>> money selling them this time around? >>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> Maybe they moved production offshore and reduced >>>>>>>>> >> manufacturing cost on >>>>>>>>> >> >> them? One would hope that they've tackled the >>>>>>>>> >> little problem of making >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> a profit... >>>>>>>>> >> >> Jon >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > . >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Tom Combs, Senior Engineer > SEP, Inc. > 11611 N Meridian Street > Suite 800 > Carmel, IN 46032 > (317) 843-1640