RE: VF50 vs the red Boss half rack Re: emulating a cheap sampling toy

["Krispen Hartung" <info@krispenhartung.com>]

I'll definitely vouch for the VF-1....great little unit...and RED!   On
the topic of the cheap sampling toy emulation, the VF-1 has an effect
called LoFi Processor...makes your instrument sound like its coming out
of a cheap AM transisor radio or gramaphone.  I haven't seen the Alesis
Aniko, but I have the big brother rack unit the Akira, and it has, as
mentioned below the Decimator which reduces the digital resolution and
"creates unique lo-fi distortion."  Then it has another effect called
Record Noise, which does exactly that...sound like your instrument is
playing off of a stratchy record.

If you're interested, I could make some samples of these three patches
and post them on my web site this weekend.

Kris




-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Kroeger [mailto:nospam@akroeger.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:26 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: VF50 vs the red Boss half rack Re: emulating a cheap
sampling toy


Great units the VF-1 for some reason Boss had problems getting it to be
a seller maybe the half rack factor was an issue (easier if it had been
full
rack) or that people didn't understand what it was or how it fit into
the lineup. I looked at one in Sam Ash and the people there didn't know
squat about it and didn't want to set it up so, I could try it (maybe
didn't know
how?) as it was already in demo rack? I bought one much later on second
hand now they are now out of production? Talk about bad marketing for a
great unit?

-----Original Message-----
From: mark sottilaro [mailto:marksottilaro@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:59 PM
To: mungenast@earthlink.net; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: VF50 vs the red Boss half rack Re: emulating a cheap
sampling toy

WOOPS.  Sorry.  Moving.  Brain dead.  I'm not sure what I was confusing
but I did mean the VF-1.  I loved mine so much I bought another!  I use
one dedicated to my guitar and another dedicated to my Access Virus C.

Mark

--- mungenast@earthlink.net wrote:

> Thanks for the tip. Ineko is on my to-buy list, but I hadn't heard of
> the VF50... how does it compare with that red half-rack Boss multifx 
> (FS-1?) that Krispen has?
> ~Tim
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mark sottilaro <marksottilaro@sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Jan 27, 2005 11:09 PM
> To: mungenast@earthlink.net
> Subject: Re: emulating a cheap sampling toy
> 
> I've heard that the Alesis Inkio (sp?) has a cool decimator effect.
> If it's like the AirFX's decimator it's pretty cool, sounds like an 
> ultra low bit rate effect.  Also, the BOSS VF50 has some great grunge 
> effects for such things.  You can get one on ebay for about $200 and 
> they have a slew of cool midi syncable effects.
> 
> Mark
> 
> --- Timothy Mungenast <mungenast@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > you mean the '70s Dan Armstrong series of effects, extremely
> > collectible.
> > Jeff Baxter swore by the Orange Squeezer
> compressor.
> > There were not many
> > components, but they were made by Musictronics to
> a
> > high standard (beware
> > the later reproductions from the early 90s... they suck!). Zappa
> > liked one of these modules (the Green Ringer) so much that
> he
> > had the circuit built
> > into his SG.
> > 
> > Thanks for the links... I'll check 'em out.
> > ~T
> > 
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > > Date: 1/27/2005 8:15:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: emulating a cheap sampling toy
> > >
> > > I wondered that if one wishes to replicate a
> > "cheap", tinny, distorted
> > sound
> > > filter, why not use really cheap components to
> > make it sound tinny, and
> > > distort it.
> > >
> > > Case in point: There were these little cheap
> > modules back in the late 70s
> > > that would plug right onto your guitar (and the
> > cord into that, if not
> > > another cheap module), with bright colors and
> > names like "Orange Screamer"
> > > and so forth.  Very few electronics inside with
> > the 9v battery, on-off
> > > toggle switch outside.  I believe the Orange
> > Screamer was a
> > treble-booster,
> > > the other one I had was a fuzz/distortion
> effect.
> > >
> > > One might wonder that, if the electronics are so
> > simple they're going to
> > be
> > > cheap, as well as fairly easy to assemble.  I
> > found some projects like
> > this
> > > on the following sites:
> > >
> > > The "Hornet" fuzz box
> > >
> http://www.web-ee.com/Schematics/Hornet/hornet.jpg
> > >
> > > A "Mini-booster" circuit http://www.muzique.com/amz/mini.htm
> > >
> > > Also if anyone remembers those little effects
> > (sort of) units I'd be
> > > curious..!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dean Stiglitz" <deknow@netzero.com>
> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 00:30 AM
> > > Subject: Re: emulating a cheap sampling toy
> > >
> > >
> > > | ...i say, if you have the toy in the house,
> why
> > emulate it...just use
> > it.
> > > | that said, i did recently read something about
> a
> > vst plugin that is part
> > > of
> > > | the nokia development kit (free, but some back
> > and forth confirmation
> > > emails
> > > | are required apparantly) that models the tiny
> > speakers in cell phones
> > (so
> > > | you can hear your ringtone as it would sound
> on
> > a real phone).
> > > |
> > > | deknow
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
>