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As long as we're talking about useful-but-unglamorous pieces of equipment, what do you guys think is the most cost-effective (used) PA power amp? ~Tim "Spore Crayon" Mungenast -----Original Message----- From: S V G <vsyevolod@yahoo.com> Sent: Jan 30, 2005 8:19 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Line mixer w 2 effects sends? I am on the lookout for something similar. As a keyboard player, I do almost everything in stereo and rely on stereo FX sends and returns. For quite a while I was using a Mackie 1604VLZpro, though I found the 16 channels (read 8 stereo) to be at the very limit of what I commonly used with no room for expansion. I did like the 6 aux sends (1-4 plus a button push turns 3/4 into 5/6), and 4 sub outs. Now if this mixer could be made into a stereo mixer without all the mic pres... About a year ago, I purchased the discontinued Mackie 3204 rack mounted mixer which gives 16 stereo inputs. This works well as far as supplying a necessary amount of inputs, though the sends are more limited than on the 1604. It has two sends, one stereo, one mono that can be routed to sends 3 and 4 with a pushbutton, again one stereo and one mono. That is its biggest downfall in my book, why couldn't they have made all the sends stereo? And to have four knobs as sends instead of two knobs and one button switch? And no submixes? I'd give up the three eq knobs per channel to put more sends/submixes and/or make the whole thing smaller. Has anyone seen a small 4 rackunit size mixer? The 3204 is 6 spaces, I'd like more functionality in less space (and for a good price and I want it yesterday...) Someone posted a mixer recently that could do a lot of what I'm asking for, though it cost $5,000. The quest continues... Stephen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com