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At 09:11 AM 2/5/2005, Kevin Harrison wrote: >anybody got anything to add re; DD-20 or the Akai E2 Headrush, any users >out there with pertinent comments on either of these. I think what I'm >looking for is something to emulate frippertronics delay rather than a >'vanilla' looper. Kevin, Glad to see you bring this back up, as I'd some thoughts here but was afraid the thread had gone stale by the time I got to it. In particular regard to the Line 6 DL-4: I currently use Line 6 Echo Pro's (the DL-4's rack-mounted big brother), which have the same basic loop engine as the DL-4 but with more memory for longer delay time. While I play synths rather than outright guitar, I do use a guitar controller to drive my synth rig. Using just my guitar patches in conjunction with a volume pedal, I've been able to get a damn good emulation of Frippertronics out of the Line 6 devices. I think the key factor you're seeking is the ability to cleanly overdub on top of a seamless loop. In my experience, the Line 6 does an excellent job of that, and I'm able to easily build a variety of ambient textures and soundscapes quite quickly using only the overdub in conjunction with the reverse and double/half-speed functionality. As has been pointed out, the one Achilles' heel of the the DL-4 is the relatively short amount of memory available. I'd agree that if you were trying to loop and switch between standard Verse-Chorus-Break parts, you'd probably get somewhat frustrated with the amount of available loop time. However, correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't sound as if that's the kind of music you're doing. The best advice I could give is simply take your axe down to your local retailer and try it out. I think the sound you're looking for is easily and simply obtainable by the DL-4, but you're going to have to decide for yourself if the unit has enough memory for your purposes, or if you're going to need longer loops than it can provide. Not to mention that you could always consider the Echo Pro instead, which has about 99 seconds of addressable loop time <*large evil grin*>. --m. _____ "i want to reach my hand into the dark and *feel* what reaches back" -recoil