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The Maratz PMD660 and PMD570 are what I considered a few weeks ago to replace my Sony Minidisk recorder. You probably remember my post where I requested feedback on recorders. Rick, if I had known, I would have sold you mine...it went for $200 on eBay with a Soundprofessionals mini stereo mic and preamp package. Here is the PMD570 user guide: http://www.jbsound.com.au/marantz-pmd570-manual.pdf (this is their latest rackmout that records directly to flash disk) More details here: http://www.proaudiosuperstore.com/marantz-PMD570.html However, based on Joe's feedback (no last name, but he's on the list here) I ended up buying the Alesis Masterlink ML9600 on eBay because it had a lot more editing features of the PMD recorders, such as normalization, parametric EQ, fade-in/fade-out, CD-R burner (redbook grade), records directly to hard disc, compression, look-ahead peak limiter, cut, paste, 24 bit A/D and D/A converters, up to 96 kHz sampling rate, balanced XLR analog input and output, 48 bit floating point DSP, AES and coaxil digital in and outs, etc, etc. Overall, this unit seemed better for recording live, editing my music, and burning it to CD-R ready to go for playback. I found mine on eBay used for $600 in excellent shape. More here: http://www.alesis.com/products/ml9600/about.html Kris -----Original Message----- From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:07 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT the best cheap recording solution At 6:22 PM -0800 2/9/05, Norm Sohl wrote: I'd strongly consider the Marantz PMD 660 solid-state recorder. But now we are getting away from cheap! That's another one I've gazed at longingly from afar, and at $500 for a 2-track recorder with XLR inputs, phantom power, and mic pres (as well as built-in mics) it makes an attractive alternative to both the Edirol R-1 and R-4. www.niehoff.nl/marantz/pmd660.pdf The PMD-670 is a little more "pro" version at $700. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://salamandersongs.com http://ill-wind.com