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Ok I'll chime in on this one, again, The VF1 rocks, I bought one online last year to have something small and powerfull for traveling. It has good amp modeling and a smorgasbord of effects, and has a lot of flexibility for real time control. its a shame they were discontinued a few years back, but I'm sure they figured that everyone wanted a foot pedal style multi effect box. The beauty of the VF1 is it has algorithms for guitar, acoustic guitar, bass guitar, keyboards and vocals, so it can cover a lot of basses. Like every other multi effect that Boss makes, the VF1 comes loaded with presets that leave a bit to be desired (like the 5150, Van Halenesque shred preset, yuck!). But for me it passed the litmus test of providing a decent black face clean tone, a respectable Vox tone, and a good overdriven lead tone that is not so saturated it looses dynamic range. You just have to work at dialing the sound in. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Mungenast [mailto:mungenast@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 6:50 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Tim's VF-1 lo-fi paradise?RE: emulating a cheap sampling toy Go on, bring it up! It's a cool topic, but then I'm prejudiced, having started this string ;-) Effector13 is a cool co. Of course, I've already gone and spent money I didn't have on a cheap Boss VF-1, partly because of its lo-fi and vinyl-crackle features, neither of which I've had time to suss out yet. All I've had time to do is scroll through the presets that everybody has warned me about... the people are right... the presets are absolutely "twee," candy-assed, lifeless disco bullshit, nowhere near as cool as my MXR flange (which I will have to sell to justify this purchase) or as rich as my ancient RPS-10, BUT everyone sez that presets are only the beginning, and based on my experience with my Zoom multis I know this to be true. If Krispen luvs his VF-1, that's enough testimonial for me, dammit. I will give it a good listen, spend some time with it. Cheerios and Milk, Tim P.S.--Anyone ever deal with Darrell Barrett? > [Original Message] > From: phill wilson <blackface@hotmail.co.uk> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Date: 2/12/2005 8:32:52 AM > Subject: RE: emulating a cheap sampling toy > > Hi not wanting to revive a long dead subject but I found this and thougth It > was perfect for that the original poster wanted to do. > > its called the Effector 13 NO-Fi pedal > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22669&item=37808982 70&rd=1 > > PS its not me thats selling it. > > Phill > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger >