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At 1:00 PM -0800 2/27/05, samba - wrote: > The way I prefer to look at it ,being a able to play scales and >arpeggios fast,doesn't add up to having chops,that sort of skill >tends to lead to so called improv that is merely playing fast >permutations of learned patterns over a given rhythmic,chordal >framework.Which can of course be really fun to do. But if carpenters >showed off their skills the way some musicians do ,all the nails >would show and there'd be afuckofalotof 'em Lol-:) Sounds like your definition of chops encompasses my definition of ears. > The improv skills that I seldom hear discussed are Composition >skills,which include well develpoed sense of >beginning/middle/end,the ability to tell what is essential and what >is embellishment , Daring, problem solving( follows right on the >heels of daring) effective use of Space.The ability to work >effectively with line,harmony,color,texture, blend/contrast >motion,repetition/variation foreground/background,tension/resolution >,motivic development,dynamics, timing,counterpoint,gesture etc. as >creative tools. Most of these compositional elements can be employed >working with raw sound as well as tuned instruments. An interesting >approach to group improv can be to agree in advance on a story,and >then try to tell it . > >It seems to me that improvisers who pay attention to each other >should be able to play together regardless of differences in >instruments, styles, techniques and musical knowledge, by bringing >big ears to the session and responding at some level to the essence >of what each other is doing. -- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Visit "Before the Fall -- Images of the World Trade Center" at http://www.foryourhead.com Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com