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RE: AW: the music of the Otto Cycle Re: Who out there has the knowledge to design/build this looper?



Cool story. Good engine/exhaust sounds can make even an otherwise boring
car exciting (no disrespect meant towards the New Beetle)!
~Tim


> [Original Message]
> From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <rs@moinlabs.de>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Date: 2/27/2005 6:32:46 AM
> Subject: AW: the music of the Otto Cycle Re: Who out there has the
knowledge to design/build this looper?
>
> I remember this project done by Volkswagen during the development of the
> New Beetle. They would invite people (VW customers without any
> professional automotive background). They had two cars: one normal car,
> one where the audio system would generate cool engine/exhaust sounds
> based on engine variables - which they didn't tell their guests. Then
> they asked the guys to compare both cars with regards to performance and
> handling.
>
> You all can guess the result: most people judged that the car with the
> audio system had better performance and handling ;)
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Timothy Mungenast [mailto:mungenast@earthlink.net] 
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Februar 2005 02:57
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: the music of the Otto Cycle Re: Who out there has the knowledge
> to design/build this looper?
>
>
> As a car freak *and* a musician, I feel that car exhaust can be just as
> harmonically complex as a more traditional instrument. When Mazda was
> developing the first-gen Miata, they had a guy listening day-in/day-out
> to tapes of classic sports cars, trying to understand the desired
> overtones so that his cowokers could then approximate them. They had
> that much respect for the sound.
>
> I, for one, am impressed.
>
> In fact, a few years ago I saw one of the classic cars they had been
> studying so feverishly, an Austin Healey, blasting down Rte 128, and I
> rolled down my window to hear the music. It sounded like the wonderful
> 15th-fret harmonic chord that Robbie Krieger used to start the Doors'
> "L.A. Woman." Unbelievable.
>
> Yours in Sound,
> Tim Mungenast
> www.mungenast.com
>
>  
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Richard Zvonar <zvonar@zvonar.com>
> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Date: 2/26/2005 2:05:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: Who out there has the knowledge to design/build this 
> > looper?
> >
> > At 10:03 AM +0100 2/26/05, Chuck Scholtz wrote:
> >
> > >Two things we want everyone to know.
> > >
> > >First, we researched the existing availability of products as well
> > >as doing a patent search, but we couldn't locate an existing patent 
> > >for the project that we have envisioned.
> >
> > >Second, the "music" in an exhaust system is much less complex than
> > >in actual musical instruments, accordingly our quality expectations 
> > >and specifications are minimal for our product application.  Due to 
> > >the higher costs and skills required in using a Physical Modeling 
> > >(PM) approach, we are looking to handle this project with a less 
> > >expensive FM Wavetable synthesis strategy.
> >
> > It may well be that products based on the technology I mentioned have
> > not yet hit market, but as of 2000 the physical modeling techniques 
> > for car engine simulation were functional and ready for licensing. 
> > The company has since been acquired by a major chip manufacturer, and 
> > I expect that car engines are low on their priority list.
> > -- 
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > Richard Zvonar, PhD
> > (818) 788-2202
> > http://www.zvonar.com
> > http://salamandersongs.com
> > http://ill-wind.com
> >
>
>
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