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>I sort of remember some discussion about the Behringer Virtualizer, is >anybody using one of these puppies? Like it? hate it? useful? make >screwy >noise? I have a single space left in my rack just waiting to be filled. >heh. got G.A.S. ?? There's a Virtualizer which is is reverb + ordinary stuff, and also a Virtualizer Pro DSP2024P which also includes a number of less common effects:- There's a 5s stereo delay with (up to ) 100% feedback, with individual delay time control for L&R channels. (this is very good quality) A bad vocoder, which is redeemed by the fact it has a noise generator. A sub-bass generator which tracks fairly well. also distortions, dub-delay, ring-mod, all sorts of dynamic FX, tremolo with variable waveform, some filters. Probably worth the effort if you need a 5s delay, or just like fiddling around to find new sounds. ...and the reverb is good at that price. If you really want something fun for very little money, to fill that rack space, go for the MAM Resonator 3, (triple filter with LFOs and envelope following) . andy butler