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Re: tough crowds = big cities? kind rooms = smaller towns??



Samba man i am with you! if i can get the
disinterested ones to listen to what i like to play,
then i ive made it(well and the girls attention too
off course)
cheers
Luis



--- samba - <sambacomet@hotmail.com> wrote:
>    For some strange reason alot of people seem to
> think musicians from 
> somewhere else are more significant than the local
> ones,seems to be true all 
> over.But folks in smaller towns tend have less
> entertainment options and are 
> less jaded. Though with internet ,cable etc such
> distinctions are 
> dissaperaring to some extent
>    I generally find tough audiences boring,but for a
> band it's like lifting 
> wieghts.The Beatles never would have gotten as good
> as they did if they 
> hadn't played the joints they did in Hamburg.And
> they did 5 or 6 sets a 
> night. Not that they were great players,but they
> were a great band cause 
> they knew how to move people,What better way top
> learn than on the 
> disinterested,if you can move them,the others are
> trivial. Carlos Santana 
> started out playing blues in Whorehouses in
> Tijuana.If you really beleive 
> people need booze to have a good time ,then I think
> it's a matter of using 
> the club gigs and disinterested audiences for
> exercise.In which case the 
> only worthwhile attitude is Take No Prisoners.    
> Personally I prefer to 
> play to the psychedelics crowd-they listen and are
> ready to be taken  
> somewhere.
> But I know from experience it's possible to self
> promote.The idea that if 
> you have a draw the clubs will hire you anyway means
> you have to cut them in 
> on the profits.If you already have a draw,why do
> that?
>   Same with recording deals .If I own 100% of the
> product I only have to 
> sell 10% as much as the standard contracts,to make
> the same net.
>    If I was in Boston ,where you can't spit without
> hitting a college,(there 
> must be dozens in the greater area) I'd start doing
> free gigs on campuses, 
> appear on college radio(always make friends with
> station mgrs and Djs 
> ,remember their names for later promos Personal
> contact can get your stuff 
> on the air.),and then advertise self produced
> events.Also student 
> organizations have money to promote cultural
> events.Student groups also have 
> free or very cheap use of campus facilities,and
> there are often people who 
> are interested in learning to put on events who can
> work with you. People 
> will tend to identify with music they hear  and like
> during high 
> school/college years.This is why major labels pay
> close attention to what's 
> happening on campuses. At early stages it's not too
> hard to get people to 
> help you fro little or nothing if they think it's
> going to go somewhere,or 
> if they think they'll be able to soak up excess
> groupies,free beer, etc. Or 
> you can find a  wacko subculture to become the
> soundtrack for.
> For  eccentrics like Ted-well I'm sure there aren't
> any others like him,but 
> aside from old style polite quiet poetrey
> readings,there is the Poetry Slam 
> movement,which prides itself on intensity, and
> dynamic delivery (Which can 
> be torturous as well)Playing inventive music in such
> scenes can be very good 
> indeed,artistically if not financially.I've
> performed with poets a number of 
> times-great times. Art openings are another
> potential place to be heard by 
> people with adventurous tastes,and generally include
> free wine and food. 
> It's of course crucial to put out a mailing list
> next to the CDs and swag 
> during all such outings.
> 
> 
> 

www.luis-angulo.com

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