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-----Original Message----- From: Chuck Scholtz After I highlight a portion of a .WAV (or MP3) file in SoundForge 7.0 and do a "Trim/Crop" to get the loop just the way I like it, the saved file always gets a bit of silence inserted at the begining and a slight fade appended at the end. I dont want this, and I am trying to get rid of it so I have the exact file I have edited. I looked under "preferences" but I cant find any setting that will get rid of this. Any ideas what I am doing wrong? --->I just tried it this way--highlight a portion of the .wav, then drag to a blank spot to copy that portion. No gaps--and great zero crossing! Gary