who's that EH signal chain Re: Who's That Flanger

["Timothy Mungenast" <mungenast@earthlink.net>]

I'd always heard that it was done with strictly EH gear (Black Finger
Sustainer, Big Muff, Small Stone). Yes, I know Mike Matthews can sometimes
have a self-serving version of guitar history, but my ear says that this
story may be the straight dope, so to speak.  

Also, as a rabid Hendrix fan *and* a gear freak, I do *not* hear any
Octavia on the song. Since "the Octavia made a tremendous amount of noise,"
I think they decided not to use it. It's possible that I could be full of
shite, but I don't think so, not this time. ;-)

Sonic Goodness,
Tim Mungenast
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> [Original Message]
> From: Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Date: 4/12/2005 9:12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Who's That Flanger
>
> The rest of his answer to that question continues:
>
> See, there's a knob that can't be put on high-tech synthesizers or
> equipment.  It's a knob called 'feeling'.  If that knob could be put
> on any instrument, then you could say 'Well, give me the same feeling
> that we had on so and so,' and it would come out just like ketchup or
> mustard.  But it's not quite like that.  Obviously 'That Lady' has
> never been played the same way again since it was recorded.   There
> are 400,000 different ways of going at it, with 400,000 different
> tones.  You never play anything the same way again exactly, because
> you're always going to feel it a different way.
>
> and later he says:
>
> There were two versions of 'That Lady': the first version was kind of
> like I was plugged into an amp, and I had one foot on earth and the
> other foot on Mount Olympus.  It was just basically guitar, and then
> the session stopped.  The song just blossomed into something we didn't
> know it would be.  I mean, I turned into the Hulk for about a
> half-hour: "My God, the feeling! Release it like that, as an
> instrumental.  Just put 'Isley Brothers' on the bottom."  It was that
> dynamic, that striking.  My brother Kelly looked out the glass window
> at me for about 15 minutes without blinking.  He was catatonic.  See,
> 'That Lady' was originally a bossa-nova style song.  If it had left up
> to me, I would have said, "Let's not do it," because I didn't see how
> it could change into what it changed into.
>
> Unfortunately, they erased that take, and I was so royally pissed.  I
> understood the reason for erasing it--you got to make room for the
> vocal.  On the other hand, it was like, "Hey man, let's try to find a
> way!" But we were under a 'you gotta finish the record' deadline. 
> Then I took another run at it, and after I finished it, I said, "Okay,
> now erase that, because that's a piece of crap."  The insisted that I
> come in and listen to it the next day.  I came in, and it was like.
> "My God!  I'm glad you didn't erase that," because that was went on
> the record.
>
>
> On 4/12/05, samba - <sambacomet@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >   Odd that what Ernie says and the engineers say seem to contradict 
>each
> > other. Maybe the engineers are trying to take too much credit,maybe
Ernie
> > doesn't know exaclty what they did ,and that's how he gets that sound
> > now.Who knows.