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Carl, As a multi keyboardist, I share your pain... :) Personally, I use the Mackie 1604 VLZ Pro as a complex matrix mixer. Submix 1 and 2 are used as a stereo send, as are Submix 3 and 4. Likewise, Aux sends 1 and 2, 3 and 4, 5 and 6. My biggest problem is wanting to return them on their own stereo channel inputs, which takes up two faders per return. Up until recently, I just joined various FX together before returning them to their own channel strips. Now I'm seriously thinking about sending all my sound sources (keyboards and wind controllers) to a Mackie 3204 (16 stereo inputs) or a Samson PL2404 (12 stereo inputs), dividing them up in groups sending out through stereo aux sends 1 or 3, mono aux sends 2 or 4, or the mute/alt 3&4 switch. Then sending the various sends from the 3204 to the 1604, routing all my sound modifiers (including loopers) through the 1604. Though it sounds quite complex on paper, it actually works pretty intuitively for me, allow me to see at a glance what's being routed where. This is something that I have a difficult time doing with software mixers. Stephen Carl wrote: The first hurdle that I need to overcome is where in my signal chain will I put this thing. (Boss DD-20) I'm a multi keyboardist so this IS a poser. My initial impulse was to put it after my line mixer and before my amp. In theory that's a fine idea, except that it means that everything I do is potentially going to get recorded in my loop. Rather than "build" my performances from a loop upward, I want to make loops while I'm grooving. Therefore capturing everything is NOT a good idea. I could select a single keyboard and put the DD-20 between this board and my line mixer. But that seems really limiting. Ultimately, I may have to incorporate a submixer before the delay. Then I can mute channels that I don't want to record to the DD-20. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com