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Sooo, let me guess, Oscar the Grouch and Kermit both use the DL4, Elmo uses an RC-20... (follow the garanimal color theory here?) I think Big Bird once contributed to an LD thread in which he complained that it was hard for him to use the EDP footpedal without hitting several buttons at once. I come from that in-between age demographic (post-boomer, pre-gen-x) where when Sesame Street first aired I was old enough to think it was just for littler kids but young enough that adults assumed my friends and I would want to see it, thus setting up an archetypal resentment that defines my mini-generation. We generally preferred Batman and Gilligan's Island reruns... About a year ago I was doing some genealogical research and discovered the family "secret" that my surname should actually be Grover. (Long story involving my great-grandfather's two wives; his *middle* name was Nelson...) I don't think I'm in any way related to the blue near/far muppet, but here's a link you might enjoy: <http://www.zeroboutique.com/grover/> Back to looping; I'm learning cello, and have an ever-deepening respect for Zoe and her ilk. (Keating, that is, not the muppet...) -t- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com