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I really like the "Nica's Dream" chord, the so-called major/minor7 (1, flat3, 5, 7). ~Tim M > [Original Message] > From: Hartung, Kris <kris.hartung@hp.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Date: 6/21/2005 10:17:44 AM > Subject: RE: Mathematics, Prime Numbers, & Looping with the EDP > > No kidding? I should have known someone would have done something > similar. Bravo! I'd love to hear the recording. > > G Lydian....nice. I've always liked that mode. It is the compliment to > one of my favorite chords to use in jazz and abstract music, the Maj7b5 > (or Maj7#4), which incidentally in most versions of jazz theory is the > fourth mode chord (by function) in the scale of chords, using the major > scales as the foundation. > > I - C Maj7 > ii - D Min7 > iii - E Min7b9 > IV - Fmaj#4 > V - G7 > > ....and so on. Most people play a Fmaj7 as the IV chord, but technically > it should have the #4/b5, otherwise you have a minor second interval > conflict between the mode and chord. > > Now what I really find intriguing is jazz melodic minor theory. Just > take the conventional system above, but use them melodic minor (not the > classical version, that descends differently), as the first mode, and so > on. Very odd and counter-intuitive at first. My friend, Mark Levine, who > wrote the Jazz Theory Book and Jazz Piano Book has a whole section on > melodic minor harmony, which I think is brilliant. > > Incidentally, if you don't feel comfortable playing the maj7#4 chord, > you can use it anytime you need to play a Dominant 13th, just play the > maj7#4 a whole step below where you would ordinarily play the Dominant > 13th. For instance, an Fmaj7#4 can be played as a rootless substitute > of the G13. Fmaj7#4 contains the b7, 3, 6, and 9 intervals of G13 (the > 6th interval here can be regarded as a substitute of the 13th). You > don' need the root if you have a bass player tagging it for you. And the > 9 makes it complete, otherwise without it, it would be a G7/13. > > Guitarists see #3 here: > http://www.myweb.cableone.net/chagstrom2/music/chords/ for how I play > the chord. It's not at all difficult to finger and feels very natural. > > Speaking of Zappa, he liked to play the Lydian mode a lot. You can hear > it on many of his recordings where he is playing guitar. > > Kris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Southwood [mailto:jsouthwood@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:18 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Mathematics, Prime Numbers, & Looping with the EDP > > I actually have a piece that I'd conceived of prior to getting my EDP > 6 years ago that does exactly that. It's called "Gradus." I start off > with a single-measure loop and then build a mensural rosalia with > successive passes of multiply with duration ratios of 2:1, 3:1, 5:1, > 7:1, 11:1, and 13:1. After building the massive rosalia, I turn down the > feedback and improvise over G lydian for the 2nd 'movement' which > eventually fades out. > > I did come up with two separate scores for the piece. One is an > 'artistic' score in the vein of George Crumb's beautiful scores where > the staff spirals out from the center. I also have a performance score > which implements the beginnings of a notational system for the EDP > footpedal. (The notation system could easily be adapted to any footpedal > configuration.) > > It's funny, though, I conceived of the piece back in 1993, before I'd > ever heard of looping, but never quite figured out what to do with it > until I got the EDP 5 years later. I wrote the piece in my first session > with my brand new EDP. > > I've got a recording of a performance from the 2003 Iowa Composers Forum > Festival that I can post sometime this week. It'll give me an excuse to > finally clean up that recording (the original recording was made on an > ADAT set to 48k and was not resampled when transferred to CD, so the > piece is slower and in the wrong key). > > Cheers, > > Jon Southwood > > > > On 6/20/05, Hartung, Kris <kris.hartung@hp.com> wrote: > > > > > > Okay, how about a topical detour? I think if I see the email subject > > heading > > "RE: Why I'm starting to loath news paper music critics" one more > > time, I'm going to throw up...I feel as if I've created a not-so-Tiny > Monster Ex Nihilo! > > :) > > > > I introduced looping to a fellow guitarist and friend here in Boise, > > Idaho (USA), and he brought this up as an idea, so I can't take credit > > > for it. I searched or it on the LD archives with no luck, so I'm not > > sure if anyone has discussed it here before either. So here it is... > > > > How about creating a looped piece by using the multiply function on > > the EDP and the series of prime numbers (only numbers that are > > divisible by themselves or 1). For instance, you hit Record and lay > > down a 1 measure groove, then hit Multiply and record a 2 measure > > harmony over that groove from the beginning of the measure....hit > > Multiply to play the sequence, then hit Multiply again and record a 3 > > measure texture part, again from the beginning of the first measure, > > and repeat this process with 5, 7, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, etc measures > > adding various textures, melodies, etc. After a while you might have > > to write the song out on paper to keep track of the loops. > > > > Has it been done? Or perhaps the question is why would anyone want to > > > do it? Someone who likes mathematics and working these things out, > perhaps.... > > > > Thoughts? Volunteers? Examples of it already done? > > > > ********************************************************************** > > ****************** > > Krispen Hartung > > Improvisational / Avant-Garde Looping Guitarist > > http://www.krispenhartung.com info@krispenhartung.com / 208-724-5603 > > Mojam Performance Calendar: > > http://www.mojam.com/concerts/search?key=performer&value=Krispen%20Har > > tung Gear setup: http://www.boisemusicians.com/gear.htm > > Featured, Sold, or Downloadable on over 100 sites: > > http://www.boisemusicians.com/links.htm > > Music & Video Catalogue: > > http://www.boisemusicians.com/catalogue.htm > > 37 Free downloadable songs in MP3 format: > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/krispenhartung_music.htm > > Reviews: http://www.boisemusicians.com/reviews.htm > > > > > > > >